ATW Manchester to South Wales

[Adam0984]

I'm currently on 0730 Manchester Pic to Carmarthen and it's formed of 158823 and wondered if this is regularly a 158 or if it was substituting for the normal 175?

 

[merlodlliw]

I'm currently on 0730 Manchester Pic to Carmarthen and it's formed of 158823 and wondered if this is regularly a 158 or if it was substituting for the normal 175?

is it two car or four car 158

 

[ValleyLines142]

I'm currently on 0730 Manchester Pic to Carmarthen and it's formed of 158823 and wondered if this is regularly a 158 or if it was substituting for the normal 175?

Substituting for a 175.

 

[krus_aragon]

I'm currently on 0730 Manchester Pic to Carmarthen and it's formed of 158823 and wondered if this is regularly a 158 or if it was substituting for the normal 175?

It's diagrammed (on RTT) for a 100mph unit, i.e. a 175...

 

[Adam0984]

Okay thanks. I saw the RTT and it said 158 I know that's just timing and not allocation. Also the reservations seemed to be right right seat numbers and direction are the 158/175s the same seat layout so they're interchangeable without messing up the reservations?

 

[ValleyLines142]

Okay thanks. I saw the RTT and it said 158 I know that's just timing and not allocation. Also the reservations seemed to be right right seat numbers and direction are the 158/175s the same seat layout so they're interchangeable without messing up the reservations?

Yes, this is indeed the case! Very clever how they do that! (although there are instances of luggage ravks against windows and some seats against the walls!)

 

[PHILIPE]

It's diagrammed (on RTT) for a 100mph unit, i.e. a 175...

Once again, it is not diagrammed for anything on RTT. This is the Timing Load, i.e. suitable for anything which can run at that speed.

 

[merlodlliw]

Once again, it is not diagrammed for anything on RTT. This is the Timing Load, i.e. suitable for anything which can run at that speed.

Id still like to know how man cars made up this 158, my guess 2 in place of a 3 car 175.

 

[berneyarms]

Id still like to know how man cars made up this 158, my guess 2 in place of a 3 car 175.

Given the original post says it is formed of 158823, I would imagine that means it is a 2-car set.

 

[Adam0984]

Yes was a 2 car and wasn't too busy either plus the bonus of plug sockets!!

 

[Parallel]

Occasionally if neither a 175 or a 158 is available a 150 will work the service, either 2 or 4 car although this tends to happen more on Sundays.

IMO 175s are great trains but I am still really impressed with Arriva's 158 refurb, they feel like new trains! Always a pleasure to travel on either of these two units.

 

[krus_aragon]

Once again, it is not diagrammed for anything on RTT. This is the Timing Load, i.e. suitable for anything which can run at that speed.

Quite right, I pulled the wrong word out this morning.

 

[Gareth Marston]

Occasionally if neither a 175 or a 158 is available a 150 will work the service, either 2 or 4 car although this tends to happen more on Sundays.

IMO 175s are great trains but I am still really impressed with Arriva's 158 refurb, they feel like new trains! Always a pleasure to travel on either of these two units.

158 Air con was not touched you can tell when the windows are open in a vain attempt to keep those inside cool. 175's will either freeze or fry you.

 

[Greenback]

I've always been pretty comfortable on a 158 or a 175, whether making the short hop between Llanelli and Swansea, or going all the way to Manchester. Mind you, I usually wear layers so I can regulate my own temperature!

 

[ValleyLines142]

I've always been pretty comfortable on a 158 or a 175, whether making the short hop between Llanelli and Swansea, or going all the way to Manchester. Mind you, I usually wear layers so I can regulate my own temperature!

I love both the 175s and the 158s. I just wish the 175s had plug sockets!

 

[headshot119]

I love both the 175s and the 158s. I just wish the 175s had plug sockets!

Amen brother, the sooner they fit them the better!

 

[Greenback]

I agree, it would be very useful on long journeys.

 

[ValleyLines142]

Amen brother, the sooner they fit them the better!

I agree, it would be very useful on long journeys.

Definitely. Especially as most the the journeys the 175s do are at least over three hours! It's especially annoying when you see the 158s on the Cheltenham to Maestegs too!