Attempted Suicide near Cambridge

[Passenger John]

While travelling into Cambridge from Shepreth yesterday midday we came to a sudden halt on Shepreth Branch Junction, the RPO who was on board went to the drivers cab and then came back down the train saying "there is a suicidel person on the line and the police were there". We then moved forward slowly, when we got to the busway bridge at Addenbrooke's there were several police cars and other emergency vehicles by the bridge. Anyone know anymore about this and how the person is.

 

[455driver]

I suppose everyone was just stood there 'talking' the person down, just tazer the twit and get things back to normal, if they were going to jump they would have done it already.

This namby pamby culture is ridiculous.

 

[cjp]

I suppose everyone was just stood there 'talking' the person down, just tazer the twit and get things back to normal, if they were going to jump they would have done it already.

This namby pamby culture is ridiculous.

Despite my signature I hope you get the help and assistance you deserve if ever things get you so down that you are at a loss as to what to do, where to get assistance.

 

[455driver]

If I want help/assistance or whatever in the future I think I would chose somewhere other than a bridge to find it!

 

[GB]

If I want help/assistance or whatever in the future I think I would chose somewhere other than a bridge to find it!

All well and good when your able to say that in the right frame of mind...perhaps a little different if you are unfortunate enough to be in that situation.

Maybe you would do well to think what your response would be if it were a member of your family?

 

[455driver]

Maybe you would do well to think what your response would be if it were a member of your family?

Been there done that, of course he was serious so went into the bathroom with lots of pills.
Would you like me to take you to his grave?

People like this prat on the bridge have absolutely no intention of jumping (if they had then they would just get on and do it) they are just after the attention and never jump once the audience is there do they, but of course all the do gooders pat each other on the back about how well they have done.

 

[Zoidberg]

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People like this prat on the bridge have absolutely no intention of jumping (if they had then they would just get on and do it) they are just after the attention and never jump once the audience is there do they, but of course all the do gooders pat each other on the back about how well they have done.

Just so's you know, you are not alone in your view.

It is ridiculous how the selfish actions of these people are allowed to impact on the journeys (road and rail) of many hundreds of people without the authorities being more proactive in removing the nuisance.

 

[455driver]

Oh it was my older brother by the way who was in the middle of a messy divorce and the bitch wouldnt even let him see the kids.

Incidentally I was also in the same position (before my brother) so drove down a Country lane, parked up and put a pipe up the exhaust, got to where I was just about unconscious and decided my ex wouldnt beat me so got out of the car and have never looked back, the headache lasted about 3 days afterwards and I have had little sympathy for these attention seeking twits since that day.
If they were going to do it they would without all the drama.

 

[alexjames]

I'll add another in support of 455.

 

[Suraggu]

I suppose everyone was just stood there 'talking' the person down, just tazer the twit and get things back to normal, if they were going to jump they would have done it already.

This namby pamby culture is ridiculous.

Do you know the mindset of someone attempting to commit suicide? Do you know why they are trying to commit suicide?

I have tried to take my own life earlier this year due to issues affecting my mental health. I took a nosedive extremely quickly due to the medication I was prescribed. I was not in control of myself, my mind could only think of ending it.

This person was extremely lucky, to be talked out of doing it, others don't get that chance. My help came afterwards but my nervous system is screwed for the rest of my life.
So please remember when posting something like this that their are so many factors involved with attempting suicide. Your attitude towards it is extremely poor.

 

[455driver]

This person at Cambridge wasnt trying to commit suicide, they were just after some attention!

When you were at your lowest did you go to a nice busy bridge and threaten to jump off or did you do it in private?

 

[Johnuk123]

This person at Cambridge wasnt trying to commit suicide, they were just after some attention!

When you were at your lowest did you go to a nice busy bridge and threaten to jump off or did you do it in private?

As for the beginning of your post, get stuffed, I have my opinion and you have yours!

You're right, I've Had dealings with many apparently suicidal people and this one certainly wasn't intending to kill themselves but was attention seeking which is very different.

 

[Eagle]

This person at Cambridge wasnt trying to commit suicide, they were just after some attention!

I tried to kill myself about two years ago by jumping off a bridge.

I wasn't doing it for attention at all. In fact no one even noticed I was there.

To this day I have no idea why I didn't jump.

 

[GB]

Amazing how many remote psychologists there are on this forum.

 

[richw]

Do you know the mindset of someone attempting to commit suicide? Do you know why they are trying to commit suicide?

Reading two posts before you Suraggu, we can assume 455driver does know the mindset of someone attempting suicide, here is the post if you missed it:

Incidentally I was also in the same position (before my brother) so drove down a Country lane, parked up and put a pipe up the exhaust, got to where I was just about unconscious and decided my ex wouldnt beat me so got out of the car and have never looked back, the headache lasted about 3 days afterwards and I have had little sympathy for these attention seeking twits since that day.
If they were going to do it they would without all the drama.

Been there done that, of course he was serious so went into the bathroom with lots of pills.
Would you like me to take you to his grave?

People like this prat on the bridge have absolutely no intention of jumping (if they had then they would just get on and do it) they are just after the attention and never jump once the audience is there do they, but of course all the do gooders pat each other on the back about how well they have done.

I agree the majority are after attention, there is a road bridge near me closed at least once a month, whilst police talk someone down. I don't however remember the last time someone jumped. If they were going to do it, they would have done it long before the police arrive, therefore I agree they are just looking for attention if they are still there when the police etc arrive.

 

[Johnuk123]

I tried to kill myself about two years ago by jumping off a bridge.

I wasn't doing it for attention at all. In fact no one even noticed I was there.

To this day I have no idea why I didn't jump.

You didn't jump off because the desire wasn't strong enough.

 

[GB]

Reading two posts before you Suraggu, we can assume 455driver does know the mindset of someone attempting suicide, here is the post if you missed it:

Yes, but not the mind set of every suicidal person.

 

[Johnuk123]

Yes, but not the mind set of every suicidal person.

Of course it's a generalisation, nobody really knows the mind of everybody. It is generally the case though that people who hang about weighing up all the options are not that serious.

 

[tractakid]

Some people might be doing it for attention. But why on earth should we take that chance when dealing with that situation?

 

[northern156]

Slightly off-topic, when someone does commit suicide on the railway, who pays for Network Rail etc to come out and sort things? Is it the passenger through fare rises or is it out of the pockets of the TOCs or Network Rail?

It may sound very cruel but I really don't like the idea of holding up trains for several hours, causing endless delays and costing money just because of the actions of an individual.
As one of the controllers on the BBC railway documentary earlier this year said, 'if it were France or America nothing would happen'.
And France/USA probably have a better railway system than the UK... Coincidence?
What could be wrong/immoral in sending one or two NwR people out (as well as relief driver for TOC), photographing the scene for potential evidence etc then covering the body until the evening when it can be properly recovered at the end of service?

If it results in lower fare rises and a significant reduction in delay minutes you can't really go wrong.

 

[GB]

Slightly off-topic, when someone does commit suicide on the railway, who pays for Network Rail etc to come out and sort things? Is it the passenger through fare rises or is it out of the pockets of the TOCs or Network Rail?

It may sound very cruel but I really don't like the idea of holding up trains for several hours, causing endless delays and costing money just because of the actions of an individual.
As one of the controllers on the BBC railway documentary earlier this year said, 'if it were France or America nothing would happen'.
And France/USA probably have a better railway system than the UK... Coincidence?
What could be wrong/immoral in sending one or two NwR people out (as well as relief driver for TOC), photographing the scene for potential evidence etc then covering the body until the evening when it can be properly recovered at the end of service?

If it results in lower fare rises and a significant reduction in delay minutes you can't really go wrong.

Tocs pick up the bill if its from a station, network rail pick up the bill if its not.

As for "what could be wrong....." Dignity and respect to the dead and family for one, or the fact that we are not a 3rd world country for another.

 

[455driver]

What could be wrong/immoral in sending one or two NwR people out (as well as relief driver for TOC), photographing the scene for potential evidence etc then covering the body until the evening when it can be properly recovered at the end of service?

You are not dealing with a body though, the last one I saw (I wasnt directly involved) the train was doing about 50 (down Brighton Fast through Clapham jn) and the body was in about 6 distinct bits, I saw 3 of them including the main bit so if the body is disassembled to that degree at 50 imagine what would happen to it at 90 (or more) mph.

Hint, there was one at Woking on the up fast (100 mph) and he was scattered over 3 platforms (and lots of passengers).

The rest of you (very good) post has already been answered.

Anyway enough of the gruesome details, I firmly believe that somebody who is going to do the deed will either do it in private or in a public way but quickly, they will not wait for an audience.
Some will obviously disagree with me but that is my view and I am unanimous in that belief.

Incidentally for anyone wondering if there is some suicidal nutter driving trains (thats me before you get all arsey ) my episode was 22 years and 3 months ago so quite a while ago and life is now very good ta very muchly.

 

[Zoidberg]

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my episode was 22 years and 3 months ago ... and life is now very good ta very muchly.

Good to hear

 

[HowardGWR]

In my day pw men used to get a bonus for taking out a bucket and shovel to such incidents. I just wonder if something similar applies today.

 

[BestWestern]

Some people might be doing it for attention. But why on earth should we take that chance when dealing with that situation?

I fail to see what the risk is? Police now have the equipment (taser) to render a person in this position temporarily unable to physically resist. I've suggested before that there really needs to be a swift and simple solution to this problem put in place, i.e. the appropriate kit - a great big bouncy crash mat jobby - be brought to the scene and moved into place below the individual's 'route' if they should jump, and they're immediately told told to either get down of their own accord or be zapped and fall. NR could have this equipment available with all incident response teams, or the Fire Service could turn up with it. Generator set up, 5 or 10 mins and it's inflated, might break a bone or two but enough bounce to ensure the jumper stays alive. Worst case scenario is that the person sees the crash mat coming and jumps first, but that's why they're there in the first place isn't it? I would gladly bet that very few of these people would actually rush to leap off when they saw it coming.

 

[wensley]

I believe I am correct in saying that generally those threatening to commit suicide are highly unlikely to follow through on that threat if they do not do it immediately. Certainly the incidents I have been aware of have involved individuals threatening and never following through on their actions, with considerable disruption to others.

I agree with the sentiment that, where appropriate, the individual should be detained using reasonable force. It is not just the one individual who's welfare is at risk. This summer there was a threat on the Harrogate Loop, several hundred passengers were trapped in hot conditions aboard services whilst the line was stopped and a civil Police negotiator called in. Surely it is not right to risk the safety of all those passengers (we all know the risks of fainting in hot conditions on board trains), when the person was accessible on a road bridge with the running lines stopped to traffic?!

I certainly agree that respect needs to be paid to the dead in such instances and trains will not be able to run until the body is out of sight of the line (removed by the undertakers) and adequate cleaning has taken place - which is particularly important at stations.

 

[34D]

Oh it was my older brother by the way who was in the middle of a messy divorce and the bitch wouldnt even let him see the kids.

Incidentally I was also in the same position (before my brother) so drove down a Country lane, parked up and put a pipe up the exhaust, got to where I was just about unconscious and decided my ex wouldnt beat me so got out of the car and have never looked back, the headache lasted about 3 days afterwards and I have had little sympathy for these attention seeking twits since that day.
If they were going to do it they would without all the drama.

Woah. This post must have taken a lot of balls to write.

Incidentally for anyone wondering if there is some suicidal nutter driving trains (thats me before you get all arsey ) my episode was 22 years and 3 months ago so quite a while ago and life is now very good ta very muchly.

Good to hear. Ex wives are bitches, but I'm glad you've moved beyond her. I've done the same. Even gave her a cuddle (through gritted teeth) the other week.

 

[1e10]

There was a documentary one the other week which showed someone threatening to attempt suicide. The emergency services received a call to report someone was sitting on the edge of a building. It turns out the caller was the same person threatening to jump.

I agree that if someone was going to commit suicide then they would just do it. Most people are looking for attention and help that they so desperately need because the mental health services in this country let them down.

 

[455driver]

Woah. This post must have taken a lot of balls to write.

It was to put my beliefs into focus, its easy to comment on something when you havent been there.

I still have the picture of the kids that changed my mind at the time, it is a right mess now but I kept it as a reminder 'just in case', now it is surplus to requirements and just sits in my picture box, its use has long since disappeared.

Good to hear. Ex wives are bitches, but I'm glad you've moved beyond her. I've done the same. Even gave her a cuddle (through gritted teeth) the other week.

I have always said that if I won the Lottery I would spend about £40K on the ex!


good hitmen dont come cheap!

And yes I have told her this!

 

[Oliver]

In my day pw men used to get a bonus for taking out a bucket and shovel to such incidents. I just wonder if something similar applies today.

When I worked on the Southern in the mid 60's station staff who volunteered to wash the blood and guts off the front of a train were given one pound.