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ATOC calls for Network Rail to be broken up

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/sep/21/network-rail-broken-up-train-operators

Network Rail, the owner of Britain's rail tracks and stations, should be split into regional units that could ultimately be sold off to raise money for the Treasury, according to proposals drawn up by the train operators.

The Association of Train Operating Companies (ATOC) makes the radical suggestions in a submission to a wide-ranging review of the rail industry by Sir Roy McNulty, the former chairman of the Civil Aviation Authority. In a five-step programme designed to whittle down the £5bn annual taxpayer subsidy for the rail industry, ATOC said that the railways could become cheaper and more passenger-friendly if greater power were handed to train operators, alongside devolution of Network Rail.

Citing the £2bn auction of the High Speed 1 route between London and the Channel tunnel, ATOC said there was a case for changing the structure of the rail network and then selling off its parts: "There is a clear precedent for the sale of a geographically based unit in the current process to sell HS1. There are many precedents in other utility sectors of national monopolies being commercialised and broken into standalone regional companies."

The regional units could be integrated with train operators, with Scotland and Merseyside among the candidates for vertical integration, ATOC added. Network Rail splits its operations into nine regions, including Scotland, Anglia, the west coast line and the Great Western route.

ATOC said that reform should begin with Network Rail devolving power by boosting the role of route directors – area managers, in effect – who would oversee specific lines in co-operation with train operators. Train companies would have considerable influence over route directors by having the right to withhold track access fees, which are worth about £1.6bn a year to Network Rail.

Further steps would see the combination of track and train operation, or vertical integration, on certain lines. Under that scenario, rail operations on Merseyside or in Scotland could be represented by one company in charge of signals, engineering work and train operation. Ultimately those units could be sold off, ATOC said.

Michael Roberts, ATOC's chief executive, warned that looming changes at the Department for Transport, which could lose about 600 staff as part of the government's comprehensive spending review, should not hinder industry reform.

"It is critical that the department, in all of the changes it has to go through, treats rail industry reform as a priority," Roberts said, adding that the reform process should not focus only on lower costs, but should include proposals that will increase ticket sales, such as faster speeds on certain routes.

A spokesperson for Network Rail acknowledged that industry costs still need to be reduced. The company, whose finances are underpinned by annual government grants and state-backed debt, is committed to shaving £5bn from its costs over the next five years.

"Network Rail fully supports better alignment and co-operation between the company and train operators. Change is needed and Network Rail will play its part in making it happen, while continuing to drive costs out of its business," said the spokesman.

However, some industry sources have cautioned that fundamental reform of the industry, such as a regional breakup, might not make a meaningful dent in costs – while distracting managers and executives. Network Rail is scheduled to spend £30bn on Britain's tracks and stations between 2009 and 2014.

A spokesperson for the DfT said the transport secretary, Philip Hammond, would consider the proposals. "We welcome this contribution from ATOC and will consider it alongside Sir Roy McNulty's study into how the UK can increase efficiency and improve value for money within its rail network."

Not something I expected to see, so I'll certainly be keeping my eye on this one.
 
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I expect that this 'devolution' will effectively become 'privitisation'. It happened in Australia, look what happened there. I expect no less of the ConDems.
 

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The "railway track operator" has already been privatised once
Why not have a second bite of the apple and see what happens...

One danger is vertical control
For example, let's say they sell off NR Scotland
First Group acquire it
They could then control all the track and majority of the trains in Scotland (FSR)
That presents a conflict of interest
 

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One danger is vertical control
For example, let's say they sell off NR Scotland
First Group acquire it
They could then control all the track and majority of the trains in Scotland (FSR)
That presents a conflict of interest

You can't allow an operator control surely? XC and EC end VT and any other operators that come into scotland would lose out?
 

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You can't allow an operator control surely? XC and EC end VT and any other operators that come into scotland would lose out?
However what happens if that becomes the case?
The example I used was a poor one as First already operate ScotRail
Therefore what about Serco operating the tracks, what happens when the franchise comes up for renewal and Serco end up bidding and winning!?!

More than likely companies such as Babcock or existing large engineering and land management companies may be interested
However, they too may already have connections with TOCs in that area...
 

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Perhaps in the future we'll see tampers, MPVs and the like carrying Old Timer - Renewing Your Railways (insert other cheesy private sector slogan here) branding? ;)

Seriously though, selling off sounds like a bad idea to me. Reform of Network Rail, though, does seem to be needed.
 

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I have no qualms about First maybe taking over the Network Rail responsibilities in Scotland as even though they would both come under the First Group family, they would both be treated as separate companies just like FGW is part of First Group but is separate from FCC.

As to First prioritising First services, it can't be any worse then Virgin non competitive clause for the WCML or a certain signalbox on the ECML prioritising East Coast just because East Coast manage the station!

In fact, it could be run along the lines of the French model where it's one company BUT split into 2 companies, one for services and the other for tracks etc...
 

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For example, let's say they sell off NR Scotland
First Group acquire it
They could then control all the track and majority of the trains in Scotland (FSR)
That presents a conflict of interest

Errr - back in the "good old days" one company (GWR, LMS, LNER etc,etc) owned the trains, the track, the station - at least they ran a "joined up railway".
If you complained about anything it was the fault of one company, not like today where if you complain about anything you get told:-

It's the fault of the TOC
It's the fault of the other TOCs using this bit of track
It's the fault of NR
It's the fault of the contractor that ???? contracted the work out to
It's the fault of the train leasing company
It's the fault of the German/Italian/Japanese company who built the train
It's the fault of DfT
And of course - it's the fault of any Tory whose name anyone can come up with


Might be worth a try ? nothing else has worked so far................
 

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Errr - back in the "good old days" one company (GWR, LMS, LNER etc,etc) owned the trains, the track, the station - at least they ran a "joined up railway".
If you complained about anything it was the fault of one company, not like today where if you complain about anything you get told:-

It's the fault of the TOC
It's the fault of the other TOCs using this bit of track
It's the fault of NR
It's the fault of the contractor that ???? contracted the work out to
It's the fault of the train leasing company
It's the fault of the German/Italian/Japanese company who built the train
It's the fault of DfT
And of course - it's the fault of any Tory whose name anyone can come up with


Might be worth a try ? nothing else has worked so far................

Too true, but isn't there some sor tof legislation that requires seperation of track and trains?
 

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EU directive track maintenance, rolling stock and operators have to all be financially independant of each other. (They also have to be privatised but NR/French/German are happy with government owned company).

While im happy with the idea of the improvements budget being broken up and regionalised into funding pots that operators bid for improvements too I dont see how it could for maintenance. It cant be more efficent for each franchise to do its own duplicating services and resources more than a dozen times.

However funding pots I approve of, to make it even better have the requirement the operators must matchfund their desired improvements, they get what they really want but have to pay half of it themselves.
 

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EU directive track maintenance, rolling stock and operators have to all be financially independant of each other. They also have to be privatised but NR/French/German are happy with government owned company.
Which directive says the railways have to be privatized? EU Directive 91/440/EEC simply requires that accouting for infrastructure and opreations by separated.
 

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The public utilities ones. Transport is classes the same as Gas/Water/electricity.

Who owns the shares is irrelevant as long as its a private company that allows open access competition.
 

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EU directives are not LAW. They require that EU Member States implement certain requirements - if that Member State believes that it already has Laws in place which meet the requirements of the Directive it need take no action.
The interpretation of "meeting the requirements of the directive" are very wide. They are easily "got around".

The classic example of this is the EU directive that says everything you buy must have a 2 year guarantee. The UK did not implement this on the grounds that the Sale of Goods Act stipulates (in so many words - but not explicitly) a 6 month guarantee, but the consumer has the legal right (no more !) to claim damages for up to 6 years after purchase if the item fails.
This has never been challenged by the EU - even if it was it, would take years to sort out !!
 

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A shake up is needed but I fail to see what the long term benefit of this will be. If the profit making element could somehow be removed then things would get better. I suspect the only difference a passenger will see is an increased ticket cost. This seems to me to be a repeat of the last Conservative government (and I'm not pro Labour either) selling alot of key UK assets off. Cut backs may make the balance sheet temporarily look healthy but quality will suffer. I could go on but I can see this one being a hotly debated topic...
 

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Simple, let DB take over the whole damned lot, Track and Trains! Things will improve ten-fold, plus, we will not have the Politics of not letting ICE through the Tunnel neither.
 

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In London for instance, could we see TfL taking over the areas covered by London Overground that are currently in Network Rail hands?
 

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I believe age has a lot to do with the people who want BR to return, they remember the golden days while the younger ones like me only remember the decaying and dying system that was dead on its feet and was put out of its misery and the massive benefits and quality improvements privatisation brought.
 

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I fail to see what the benefit of breaking up Network Rail would be, it would just increase management costs. I can see the benefits of more vertical integration, but this is not what seems to be being proposed here. All it seems is a plan to embed privatisation more permanently, as grouping the baby NRs together would be rather like unscrambling an egg. Personally, whilst I think reform is needed it needs to be reversible in case it all doesn't go as planned.
 
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I would like to see ATOC scrapped. And all their work taken in-house by DfT.

PS.... what is ATOC's basis in law ? Was it legally set up by Railways Act 1993 ? Or is actually a volantary organisation ?
 

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Before deciding whether to scrap ATOC, I think I need to fully understand what it's actual legal position is under the privatisation legislation.
 
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Before deciding whether to scrap ATOC, I think I need to fully understand what it's actual legal position is under the privatisation legislation.

A "trade association" with a legal status. Hmmm. Yet another aspect of our privatised railways "smoke and mirrors"....
 

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Precisely. They appear to be legally responsible for such things as the Routeing Guide as far as I can tell (I could be wrong!), and other thigns as well, probably. How everything fits together is all a bit mruky to me, I must admit!
 

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massive benefits and quality improvements privatisation brought.
What exactly are these benefits? The removal of affordable walk-up travel? The introduction of Voyagers? The removal of buffet cars?
 
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