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DavidAtkin

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Hi everyone.

Can anyone please confirm how long the traffic scene pictures stay up for in this test ?.

I’ve seen loads of different answers from 0.5-1s… 1-1.5s

Just looking for some clarification if possible.

Cheers David.
 
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stephanjm

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Hi everyone.

Can anyone please confirm how long the traffic scene pictures stay up for in this test ?.

I’ve seen loads of different answers from 0.5-1s… 1-1.5s

Just looking for some clarification if possible.

Cheers David.
I would say 0.5,
It was very quick and didn’t feel like a second,
Sort of blink and you’ll miss it type thing.
They played a tone through some headphones to let you know a picture was about to appear so you didn’t miss it.
 

Pintman

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Does anyone who has recently done the dots test know if you have to go left to right or can you come back right to left then back left to right?
The assessor will tell you to go left to right. You can choose not to follow their instructions if you want to but I wouldn't recommend it
 

DavidAtkin

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I would say 0.5,
It was very quick and didn’t feel like a second,
Sort of blink and you’ll miss it type thing.
They played a tone through some headphones to let you know a picture was about to appear so you didn’t miss it.
Have you sat the test may I ask ?

Am just looking for some advice, I’ve recently bought a software online to practice and for instance say I saw bicycle pedestrians and motor car but left out traffic lights on the software I have, it would give me a incorrect answer as I missed that out.

Is that the way it’s going to work on the day of the test ?
 

matcha

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Have you sat the test may I ask ?

Am just looking for some advice, I’ve recently bought a software online to practice and for instance say I saw bicycle pedestrians and motor car but left out traffic lights on the software I have, it would give me a incorrect answer as I missed that out.

Is that the way it’s going to work on the day of the test ?
I believe you would get credit for the two you did spot...so in that case 2 out of 3 possible marks. The main thing is not to guess, as if you guess wrong you would get marks deducted from what I have read.
 

TrainBod

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Hoping someone can help me.......

So, I have a standard pass with a TOC....passed everything including the MMI and waiting for a course but have no timescales for this.

Have been invited to Southeastern to undertake the VSE and and should I pass that then it will be a DMI

My question is...should I fail the VSE would that affect my current pass? I am very confused

Thank you all :)
 

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Unless I’m mistaken, you asked the same question in October:
Hoping someone will be able to provide some clarity.....I know Southeastern is "enhanced"....if you have passed the tests with another TOC that is "standard"....is it the scores from that test that determine if your are enhanced?? If you take any additional tests to get you to enhanced and you don't pass, does that then mean I have lost my original pass?? I am confused

I believe SE use an additional assessment to make it enhanced. I'm fairly sure that it doesn't affect your standard pass.

Do you know what the additional test is....??

This issue is...I didn't do the VSE as part of standard pass....if I did the VSE with Southeastern and if I didn't pass, would it affect my "Standard" pass as I don't want to lose a life.......

Additional tests don't affect the normal tests and only count at companies that use them.
 

Snowman84

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Hi All,

Anbody got a link to help practice TEA-Occ? Specifically looking for the tones?

Are they fairly quick?

The practice material suggests a friend reading out a paragraph then counting up a certain word. Would this be a similar pace to the beeps

Thanks
 

Unobrow

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Hi All,

Anbody got a link to help practice TEA-Occ? Specifically looking for the tones?

Are they fairly quick?

The practice material suggests a friend reading out a paragraph then counting up a certain word. Would this be a similar pace to the beeps

Thanks
Assuming it hasn’t changed from when I took it. There are only two different and easily distinguishable tones (or notes, if that helps). Whilst they come reasonably quickly, you’re only required to count the number of one tone. Whichever way suits you, in your head or on your fingers, should be easy enough. Don’t overthink it, it’s that easy for the first part.

Part 2 being searching the directory. I got in my head I was only looking for matching symbols without burdening myself with remembering what they actually were unless asked to search for particular ones. That worked for me. This way I could be quick running down the lines.

When you’re doing part 3 counting tones and searching the directory, I found it easier to stop searching and listen to the tones, then continue searching.

These tests must have clicked with me as I actually found myself finishing the directory and going back over it checking, which surprised me. But don’t aim for that, I suspect accuracy is as important (if not more so) than speed.

Above all else, RTFQ (Read the f………. question). AKA, listen and understand exactly what they want you to do. If you can’t follow instructions………etc etc.

Good luck.
 

Snowman84

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Assuming it hasn’t changed from when I took it. There are only two different and easily distinguishable tones (or notes, if that helps). Whilst they come reasonably quickly, you’re only required to count the number of one tone. Whichever way suits you, in your head or on your fingers, should be easy enough. Don’t overthink it, it’s that easy for the first part.

Part 2 being searching the directory. I got in my head I was only looking for matching symbols without burdening myself with remembering what they actually were unless asked to search for particular ones. That worked for me. This way I could be quick running down the lines.

When you’re doing part 3 counting tones and searching the directory, I found it easier to stop searching and listen to the tones, then continue searching.

These tests must have clicked with me as I actually found myself finishing the directory and going back over it checking, which surprised me. But don’t aim for that, I suspect accuracy is as important (if not more so) than speed.

Above all else, RTFQ (Read the f………. question). AKA, listen and understand exactly what they want you to do. If you can’t follow instructions………etc etc.

Good luck.
Brilliant, thanks for info - Will get a bit practice in before the day but I guess it's one them instances where I can either do it/or not :lol:
 

redjj

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Does anyone with medical knowledge happen to know if mild PTSD would prevent me from becoming a train driver.
I would like to private message you or start a 'conversation' asking about this, but I have not posted enough to unlock that function!

Until then, has this been an issue so far?

Background for myself - I have ptsd on my medical record but after investigation/treatment it was determined to not meet the threshold and was labelled as work-related stress - around 3 years ago. not current.
 

swrfanatic

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Hi guys,

I was invited to do some OPC assessments earlier (the RAAT, SCAAT and the TCT) and I was wondering where I could find any practise papers and if anyone has any general advice for me!
 

RossMc

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I would like to private message you or start a 'conversation' asking about this, but I have not posted enough to unlock that function!

Until then, has this been an issue so far?

Background for myself - I have ptsd on my medical record but after investigation/treatment it was determined to not meet the threshold and was labelled as work-related stress - around 3 years ago. not current.

Wasn't an issue at all. I've been through the process and currently now driving trains for Scotrail.

I disclosed it all and had a brief conversation with the Dr at my medical. No issues at all.

I wouldn't worry at all about "stress". Everyone experiences it as some point.
 

spudknowsbest

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I just recieved the email saying i had passed the online assessments (Numeracy, TCT, SCAAT, RAAT) and says they are now shortlisting for interviews?
Does anyone know what the likelihood of actually getting an interview is, and are there any more assessments after this process?
Any help would be appreciated.
 

Spider1806

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Hi All can anyone help?

I have passed everything including the medical and I have applied to a freight company

Occ health want to discuss with me but I think their concern is the length of the run and me being able to check my sugar levels

Anyone who is type 1 diabetic and has had issues like this?

The sensor on arm connected to phone is easiest way to check regularly?

Any help of advice appreciated

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Hi All can anyone help?

I have passed everything including the medical and I have applied to a freight company

Occ health want to discuss with me but I think their concern is the length of the run and me being able to check my sugar levels

Anyone who is type 1 diabetic and has had issues like this?

The sensor on arm connected to phone is easiest way to check regularly?

Any help of advice appreciated
 

spudknowsbest

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Hi i've got those assessments for lnwr conductor - what was in the tct?
Ticket checking test - Literally tickets they will show you, with some set rules, you have to work out how many parts are incorrect I.E Date, Peak/Off peak, Discounts, direction etc etc
 

Spider1806

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Hi All,

I have passed all including medical with a freight company

Now they want me to discuss with OCC HEALTH about my diabetes and I guess how I monitor maybe because of length of runs?

Anyone had this experience before? Any advice on how you manage your levels when on long routes?

Thanks All
 

NSEWonderer

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Hi All,

I have passed all including medical with a freight company

Now they want me to discuss with OCC HEALTH about my diabetes and I guess how I monitor maybe because of length of runs?

Anyone had this experience before? Any advice on how you manage your levels when on long routes?

Thanks All
I don't think anyone's been able to advise because its too niche of a subject area. If you've passed the other medical tests then this occupational health discussion will be where all your answers will be found.

As on the fourm you can see the answers vary wildly per experience:

I'd say relax, wait for the discussion with occupational health, ideally they'll want to see how you can indeed manage your levele, offer you options and lifestyle adapted plans etc.

Hopefully works as I do know the diabetes restriction of old has since been relaxed for the Driver role with specfic monitoring as the result. I've not had diabetes but I know a few drivers with type 2 and two with type 1 and they're on various different plans.
 

Aziz Mahgoub

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Hi everyone hope your all well. Awaiting a date for an MMI with Southern and was wondering does anyone know the 6 questions I believe they will ask please? As I can’t remember them from the assessment centre which I attended a long time ago. Any help will be mostly appreciated.
 

redjj

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Wasn't an issue at all. I've been through the process and currently now driving trains for Scotrail.

I disclosed it all and had a brief conversation with the Dr at my medical. No issues at all.

I wouldn't worry at all about "stress". Everyone experiences it as some point.
Thanks for the reply.
Great to hear you made it through and in a role!

My worries are that my health record states 'PTSD' and even though it was determined as work-related stress that doesn't change what I was initially treated for on my health record.
I have no issues disclosing all, work-related stress is putting it light - I am now ex-police and was incident-related - which causes the worry!
 

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