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intercitypete

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Hi guys very sad today i failed the 'dot' test yesterday the test which i was confident on but passed the glop and cable/dials test,just wondered if it goes against you when you apply again in 6 months and is there a limit to how chances you get on the assessment ???? Thanks in advance
 
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Dave1987

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Hi guys very sad today i failed the 'dot' test yesterday the test which i was confident on but passed the glop and cable/dials test,just wondered if it goes against you when you apply again in 6 months and is there a limit to how chances you get on the assessment ???? Thanks in advance

You get 2 chances at the assessments. You have to wait six months but the failure from the first time should not have any affect on your second attempt.
 

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Unlucky mate:(

But don't allow this to deter you from having another go, since you failed on the GB keep practicing until you master the technique.

Unfortunately out of the 2 life lines you have used up one of them meaning, 'this is it pal, this is you last chance in the game'!

Which TOC did you take the assessment with if you don't mind me asking?

All in all, chin up buddy (easier said than done) but you should be proud of yourself for making it this far!

Good luck in the future:)
 

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Unlucky mate:(

But don't allow this to deter you from having another go, since you failed on the GB keep practicing until you master the technique.

Unfortunately out of the 2 life lines you have used up one of them meaning, 'this is it pal, this is you last chance in the game'!

Which TOC did you take the assessment with if you don't mind me asking?

All in all, chin up buddy (easier said than done) but you should be proud of yourself for making it this far!

Good luck in the future:)



Thanks for the kind reply mate.
Toc was southeastern,any tips on the technique??
Is it only twice with that toc or does it mean the games up with all of them??
 

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No worries pal,

'Two strikes and you're out'! applies to all TOCs and registered in the national database.

SE is a pretty good TOC to work for, was this position advertised internally and do you currently work for SE?
 

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Thanks for the kind reply mate.
Toc was southeastern,any tips on the technique??
Is it only twice with that toc or does it mean the games up with all of them??

Unfortunately if you fail twice the game is up for all of them.

Anyway forget about it for six months and reapply with a completely clear head.

Good luck for the future!!
 

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Unfortunately if you fail twice the game is up for all of them.

Anyway forget about it for six months and reapply with a completely clear head.

Good luck for the future!!


Thanks mate will do six months to get it right at least, i wont give up its my passion to drive a train thanks for all the kind responses i didnt realise that u only get two chances and how much it affects u when it dont go right thanks again guys u are all amazing.
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No worries pal,

'Two strikes and you're out'! applies to all TOCs and registered in the national database.

SE is a pretty good TOC to work for, was this position advertised internally and do you currently work for SE?

No im an outsider that just simply kept knocking on the door.
 

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Thanks mate will do six months to get it right at least, i wont give up its my passion to drive a train thanks for all the kind responses i didnt realise that u only get two chances and how much it affects u when it dont go right thanks again guys u are all amazing.
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No im an outsider that just simply kept knocking on the door.

Now worrie. If you forget about and then reapply in six months with a completely clear head you give yourself a much better chance than if you are fretting that its your last chance. I went into mine with the attitude that if I passed then great but if I didnt then it wasnt the end of the world. I was relaxed and well you can probably gather the rest.
 

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Now worrie. If you forget about and then reapply in six months with a completely clear head you give yourself a much better chance than if you are fretting that its your last chance. I went into mine with the attitude that if I passed then great but if I didnt then it wasnt the end of the world. I was relaxed and well you can probably gather the rest.

Did you fail your first time ?? And are you driving now??
 

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Did you fail your first time ?? And are you driving now??

I passed first time, I am driving now yes. I'm just saying that if you go in anxious that its your last attempt you are likely to fail again, just go as relaxed as you can be.
 

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I failed 1st time over a decade ago. Passed 2nd time (2011) :) Proof it can be done!
 

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I failed 1st time over a decade ago. Passed 2nd time (2011) :) Proof it can be done!

Thanks pal
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I passed first time, I am driving now yes. I'm just saying that if you go in anxious that its your last attempt you are likely to fail again, just go as relaxed as you can be.

Fingers crossed for next time thanks for the advice
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Next time will i have to sit all again or just the GB ??
 

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Hi mate, sorry to hear you didn't make it this time. As previous posters have mentioned don't give up and practice like mad. In my own experience I felt it easier to make sure I got all the dots right without worrying about the speed in which you did them. As you get better recognising the 'shapes', the speed will come automatically.
Good luck for next time.
 

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hi guys i have test in 4 days time i hear same information around the net about Glop scenery has any one know the scenery or story if any one got copy of it i will be very great to look at the story.
thank you
 
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hi guys i have test in 4 days time i hear same information around the net about Glop scenery has any one know the scenery or story if any one got copy of it i will be very great to look at the story.
thank you

If you had a copy of the "Glop" passage, that would surely be cheating?

There are tools available for practising for the dots test and the co-ordination test which are excellent but don't actually give you the answers which the Glop passage would!

The whole idea of the Glop passage is to see if you can remember important facts: a vital part of train driver training!

In the test, after the passage is read, you'll have a few minutes to make notes on important parts. All I would advise is signs and colours and their meanings are important! Make a note of them and remember them.

In my own opinion, that is the easiest part of the test by a long way so don't get too worried about it.
 

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Sorry to hear you failed mate but id look elsewhere. Southeastern are awful. The terms and conditions are crap compared to everyone else as and the union is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.
 

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Sorry to hear you failed mate but id look elsewhere. Southeastern are awful. The terms and conditions are crap compared to everyone else as and the union is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

Are you a driver for Southeastern? And what union are you referring to?
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If you had a copy of the "Glop" passage, that would surely be cheating?

There are tools available for practising for the dots test and the co-ordination test which are excellent but don't actually give you the answers which the Glop passage would!

The whole idea of the Glop passage is to see if you can remember important facts: a vital part of train driver training!

Eith this iformation readilly available this is the core reason why so many are failing the interviews as the tests are designed to ascertain whether a candidate is suitable for the role. This is getting rediculous to be fair.
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If you had a copy of the "Glop" passage, that would surely be cheating?

There are tools available for practising for the dots test and the co-ordination test which are excellent but don't actually give you the answers which the Glop passage would!

The whole idea of the Glop passage is to see if you can remember important facts: a vital part of train driver training!

If this iformation readilly available this is the core reason why so many are failing the interviews as the tests are designed to ascertain whether a candidate is suitable for the role. This is getting rediculous to be fair.
 

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Indeed no wonder they are changing them as the are starting to become not fit for purpose.
 

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Indeed no wonder they are changing them as the are starting to become not fit for purpose.

What actually worries me being in the industry are new recruits getting jobs that are not suitable giving the other drivers a bad name as such however hopefully this will not happen.
 

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Sorry to hear you failed mate but id look elsewhere. Southeastern are awful. The terms and conditions are crap compared to everyone else as and the union is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

I know a driver who just tranferred from LOROL!

Interesting the terms are so different shame it is not BR any more so damn complicated!
 

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Are you a driver for Southeastern? And what union are you referring to?
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Eith this iformation readilly available this is the core reason why so many are failing the interviews as the tests are designed to ascertain whether a candidate is suitable for the role. This is getting rediculous to be fair.
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If this iformation readilly available this is the core reason why so many are failing the interviews as the tests are designed to ascertain whether a candidate is suitable for the role. This is getting rediculous to be


By the sounds of it i should hold my head high just for the fact i didnt cheat! Its my ambition to be a train driver ive got one shot and i refuse to cheat.
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Sorry to hear you failed mate but id look elsewhere. Southeastern are awful. The terms and conditions are crap compared to everyone else as and the union is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

Thanks pal i got 1 shot left so there is still hope.Do u drive for se ??
 

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Yes im a driver although not at southeastern for long. Will soon be on the move elsewhere :)
 

intercitypete

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Hi guys does anyone know when i re-sit my assessment that i will only have to re do what i failed on last time as i failed the GB but passed the glop and cable/dial test ??????? Massive thanks in advance
 

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Whats the crack with doing assessments with different companies within the 6 month period? I passed the 1st part assessment with FGW 4 months ago, yet DBS wont consider my application as apparently I am unable to resit their assessment. Seems a little bit contradictory that it's classed as a national pass, yet not valid with some TOCs.
 
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