Arriva's performance

[overthewater]

It was bought to our attention the focus of certain companies has been swept under the carpet IE Arriva. So Hopeful this thread will help sort that out and people will highlight problems, fleet news and improvements.

Leicester had some service changes of late
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/updates/service-changes-in-leicester-from-4-november-2017/

We're making changes to services in the Leicester area from 4 November 2017.

5/5A - Leicester to Melton Mowbray
Minor changes to improve timings with the timetable reflecting the amount of traffic at different times of day.
The route around Melton Mowbray town is revised to give residents a direct service to Leicester. Buses will operate a loop of Leicester Road, Edendale Road, Valley Road, Dalby Road, Queensway, Norfolk Drive and Burton Road.
Certain Monday to Friday peak hour journeys will be numbered X5 and operate from Melton Mowbray (Wilton Road) via the A607 to Leicester, omitting Asfordby.

View the 5/5A timetable here (PDF)

6 - Leicester to Thurmaston
There are changes to this service to simplify this route and improve punctuality.
We will no longer serve Lonsdale Road and Ferndale Road, instead we will use Humberstone Lane.
The route beyond Thurmaston Asda is withdrawn due to low passenger numbers; Syston continues to be served by services 5/5A every 10 minutes.

View the 6 timetable here (PDF)

14 - Leicester to New Parks & Braunstone Frith
We’re adding extra journeys to your service 14 on Monday to Saturday evenings, as well as a brand new Sunday service.

View the 14 timetable here (PDF)

127 - Leicester to Loughborough and Shepshed
There are minor changes to this service to improve timings with the timetable reflecting the amount of traffic at different times of day.
Buses will continue to operate every 12 minutes Monday to Friday during peak hours, and every 15 minutes off-peak and on Saturdays.
An afternoon journey will start from outside Rawlins Academy on schooldays making it easier for children to board the service at the end of the day.

View the 127 timetable here (PDF)

X3 - Leicester to Market Harborough
There are changes to the timetable of this service to improve punctuality, with the timetable reflecting the amount of traffic at different times of day.
There are changes to some early morning and later evening journeys, with buses that previously finished in Kibworth either terminating in Market Harborough or continuing through to Leicester.
There are changes to the times of buses serving the High Street and Barnards Way areas of Kibworth Beauchamp to avoid buses having to pass on Fleckney Road.

View the X3 timetable here (PDF)

16 - Coalville to Loughborough
The 1740 and 1840 departures from Coalville will depart at 1750 and 1850 and operate ten minutes later throughout.

View the 16 timetable here (PDF)

27 - Leicester to Ratby
The 0732 departure from Leicester is re-timed to 0725 to coordinate with other services along Groby Road to County Hall.

View the 27 timetable here (PDF)

49 - Leicester to Fleckney
The terminus in Fleckney will move round the corner from Saddington Road to Manor Road.

View the 49 timetable here (PDF)

52 - Leicester to Meridian & Thorpe Astley
An additional journey from Leicester to Meridian and Thorpe Astley will operate at 0640 Mon- Fri.
The 0905 departure from Leicester is re-timed to operate at 0840 arriving at Meridian for 0900, making it easier to get to work around Centurion Way.

View the 52 timetable here (PDF)

53 - Leicester to Thurnby Lodge
There are minor changes to the timetable to improve punctuality.

55 - Leicester to Scraptoft
There is a minor change to this service, with buses now waiting time at Church Hill in Scraptoft.

58/58A - Leicester to Hamilton
There are additional early morning journeys from Hamilton to Leicester at 0603 (58A) and 0620 (58).

View timetable here (PDF)

84 - Leicester to Lutterworth
The 1545 Mon-Fri journey from Leicester will depart at 1550 and oeprate 5 minutes later throughout.

85 - Leicester to Counteshorpe & South Wigston
The 1448 M-F journey from South Wigston will wait 5 minues at Countesthorpe Leysland Community College to allow students to board, departing 1506 and running 5 minutes later for the rest of the journey.

View the 84/85 timetable here (PDF)

104 - Leicester to Fosse Park
There are minor changes to this service to improve punctuality. The service will operate up to every 15 minutes Monday to Saturday, and every 30 minutes on Sundays.

View the 104 timetable here (PDF)

 

[6Gman]

It was bought to our attention the focus of certain companies has been swept under the carpet IE Arriva. /

Can you explain what this sentence is supposed to mean?

 

[overthewater]

In the First group thread, Arriva has been swinging the sword yet gets very little mention or discussion. To balance it all out there is a thread covering Arriva in Central England.

 

[Busaholic]

Doesn't Luton come under Kent and Thamesside? (entirely logically)

 

[6Gman]

Doesn't Luton come under Kent and Thamesside? (entirely logically)

And to the best of my knowledge Arriva Midlands don't reach Chester, but the OP's intent seems a little unclear.

 

[overthewater]

Doesn't Luton come under Kent and Thamesside? (entirely logically)

I thought there were there 5 areas:

* North east
* Yorkshire
* Midlands/Central England
* Wales
* Kent and Essex

And to the best of my knowledge Arriva Midlands don't reach Chester, but the OP's intent seems a little unclear.

I though since Arriva has been totally forgotten about. Maybe we could have a proper look at what whats?

 

[ag51ruk]

Arriva North Midlands used to reach Chester when it ran the Crewe depot until the early 2000s, but Chester is now served by Arriva North West and Arriva Wales

 

[6Gman]

I thought there were there 5 areas:

* North east
* Yorkshire
* Midlands/Central England
* Wales
* Kent and Essex

And where do Liverpool and Birkenhead fit into that?

 

[6Gman]

I though since Arriva has been totally forgotten about. Maybe we could have a proper look at what whats?

So, a general discussion of Arriva's performance?

 

[Andyh82]

And where do Liverpool and Birkenhead fit into that?

Arriva North West and Wales, which contains Arriva North West and Arriva Buses Wales

 

[Typhoon]

And where do Liverpool and Birkenhead fit into that?

And, indeed Greater Manchester!

https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/globala...49.1105607321.1511646906-500781189.1487434758

 

[6Gman]

Arriva North West and Wales, which contains Arriva North West and Arriva Buses Wales

Yes, I know that. I was asking overthewater where it fitted into his "five areas".

 

[swifty]

And where do Liverpool and Birkenhead fit into that?

And of course London and Surrey.

 

[Busaholic]

And of course London and Surrey.

In London Arriva only operate as contractor to TfL of course: in Surrey is it Arriva Southern Counties?

 

[Typhoon]

In London Arriva only operate as contractor to TfL of course: in Surrey is it Arriva Southern Counties?

Arriva in the county of Surrey is only really Guildford (and Woking) and is part of Southern Counties. Arriva Kent and Sussex became Arriva Kent and Surrey about four years ago to reflect this. The 'Sussex' made no sense as it could only refer to a half-hourly service from Tunbridge Wells that sneaked over the border (now abandoned). More services into Sussex were absorbed with the Guildford operations then had been operated by Arriva Kent and Sussex for many years.

 

[turboslug]

Arriva North Midlands used to reach Chester when it ran the Crewe depot until the early 2000s, but Chester is now served by Arriva North West and Arriva Wales

Arriva midlands north also ran winsford & Macclesfield depots for a year or 2 so reached manchester city centre, also oswestry depot ran into chester on a council tender on Sundays,
Arrivas performance in the north west is awful currently plus the area they cover is reducing every timetable change

 

[Robertj21a]

Doesn't Luton come under Kent and Thamesside? (entirely logically)

No Luton comes under Midlands - as do Aylesbury, High Wycombe and Milton Keynes.

 

[6Gman]

Arriva midlands north also ran winsford & Macclesfield depots for a year or 2 so reached manchester city centre, also oswestry depot ran into chester on a council tender on Sundays,
Arrivas performance in the north west is awful currently plus the area they cover is reducing every timetable change

In what way?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

In what way?

There does feel like there are two Arriva empires in the North West.... Merseyside is clearly a powerbase and has seen some real investment over the years. The ops in Greater Manchester and Cheshire seem to be sustained on limited investment but perhaps that reflects the strength of those operations in justifying such spending.

 

[Robertj21a]

There does feel like there are two Arriva empires in the North West.... Merseyside is clearly a powerbase and has seen some real investment over the years. The ops in Greater Manchester and Cheshire seem to be sustained on limited investment but perhaps that reflects the strength of those operations in justifying such spending.

Perhaps they are wary of franchising in Manchester.

 

[Andyh82]

Arriva are the big city operator in Liverpool, the successor to the PTE. In Manchester that is First & Stagecoach, Arriva Manchester are tiny in comparison.

 

[Busaholic]

Arriva are the big city operator in Liverpool, the successor to the PTE. In Manchester that is First & Stagecoach, Arriva Manchester are tiny in comparison.

Could it be said that Arriva are very conscious that their dominant position in Merseyside is always liable to being examined by the competition authorities, and therefore they have to be seen to be innovative, or, at the very least, spending more money on their operations than might otherwise be the case?

 

[Dentonian]

Perhaps they are wary of franchising in Manchester.

Very much doubt it. Arriva (and First) have a long record of poor investment in GM and have suffered recently at the hands of Metrolink (Wythenshawe depot) and tender losses (Bolton ops).