Arriva Trains Wales WAG2 67003

[jones_bangor]

Wasn't aware they had got any dispensation to run the 67s quicker yet, either that or they are going to run a slower path.

Network Rail have obviously received a call from the new minister! Expect a few pencils being sharpened quickly, and sudden innovative thinking!

 

[junglejames]

Stupid question. Im probably very slow. But where are the Mk3s coming from? Is it out of DB/ Chilterns stock?

 

[anthony263]

Stupid question. Im probably very slow. But where are the Mk3s coming from? Is it out of DB/ Chilterns stock?

I think DB have some MK3 carriage's in storage which were supposed to being refurbished for the ATW service in addition to those supposed to being used for chiltern

 

[Tomonthetrain]

Expect...sudden innovative thinking!

In government? That is rare!

 

[merlodlliw]

Anyone know what service it was being used on and what is being used in its place?

It was taken off the 0805 Holyhead to Cardiff for ATWs 0750 WAG2 open Access and replaced with a 150 which does various Holyhead to Cardiff diagrams.
The 175 is franchise stock

Bob
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Network Rail have obviously received a call from the new minister! Expect a few pencils being sharpened quickly, and sudden innovative thinking!

The comfort zones in Network Rails Cardiff HQ have disappeared along with the land of leather. The new Minister knows he will be questioned about the trains next week in the Assembly,
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Might actually make them a bit of money for once, since the Kitchen Car is still out of order ...

bought in Fish & Chips for the average two passengers then prepared at the St David's of course.

 

[Rhydgaled]

Presumably a 67 and DVT could operate with the existing mark 2 stock and Mk3 restaurant first in any case?

Not sure if there's a 2nd Mk3 restaurant about, but there's certainly enough Mk2's to make a couple of trains......

I seem to remember a debate on here about a meeting room in the WAG express mark 3 buffet car. I think it turned out this feature was on the spare buffet car, but not the one normally used. This suggests that there is a spare buffet car.

As for mark 2s, I seem to remember 13 as a figure for the number ATW have, although some sources suggest it could be as many as 22. I guess only 6 are painted in WAG express livery though.

they need modified (as with the WSMR stock) to have the AAR cabling and connectors- the AAR system doesn't use the RCH jumpers and lighting cables used by the older system

I read somewhere that the ATW mark 2s previously were used with top-and-tail class 37s and were through wired with the appropriate multiple working stuff. Could you use the same wires and just cut the sockets off and solder on another type of socket????

 

[hairyhandedfool]

I don't know about them being through wired, but they were top and tailed for use by ATN on some Leeds-Carlisle-Leeds services before moving to Cardiff.

 

[Bakers1970]

I seem to remember a debate on here about a meeting room in the WAG express mark 3 buffet car. I think it turned out this feature was on the spare buffet car, but not the one normally used. This suggests that there is a spare buffet car.

As for mark 2s, I seem to remember 13 as a figure for the number ATW have, although some sources suggest it could be as many as 22. I guess only 6 are painted in WAG express livery though.

I read somewhere that the ATW mark 2s previously were used with top-and-tail class 37s and were through wired with the appropriate multiple working stuff. Could you use the same wires and just cut the sockets off and solder on another type of socket????

Yes RFM 10259 is used in regular service, with RFM 10249 hot spare stood at Canton..Also, 10259 has the "meeting " area partition removed whereas 10249 still has it fitted.

 

[jones_bangor]

I don't know about them being through wired, but they were top and tailed for use by ATN on some Leeds-Carlisle-Leeds services before moving to Cardiff.

Do we know for certain that Mk3's are in the pipeline? TBH, as a regular user of this service, I'm perfectly happy with the Mk2's!

Is there anything to the rumours that more of the North-South services will be loco-hauled?