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Arriva Midlands

SSmith2009

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Ouch.
I saw that Wrightbus has started doing Diesel to Electric bus conversions, do you think the price of them will fall over the next few years due to increased supply?
Possibly as the price may come down in a few years, First have around 50 diesel streetdecks being converted to electric by NewPower.

I do wonder if streetdeck 4600 would be a perfect candidate/test bus for Arriva to have converted to electric?
 
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Possibly as the price may come down in a few years, First have around 50 diesel streetdecks being converted to electric by NewPower.

I do wonder if streetdeck 4600 would be a perfect candidate/test bus for Arriva to have converted to electric?
Personally, as 4600 is the first Stealth Streetdeck ever made, I'd have it left alone, although it might become decidedly more reliable if it was converted.
 

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Possibly as the price may come down in a few years, First have around 50 diesel streetdecks being converted to electric by NewPower.

I do wonder if streetdeck 4600 would be a perfect candidate/test bus for Arriva to have converted to electric?

Personally, as 4600 is the first Stealth Streetdeck ever made, I'd have it left alone, although it might become decidedly more reliable if it was converted.

4600 Has to be one of the most unreliable buses in the fleet, it's in the garage more than it's on the road, last year it didn't move for months and this year, looking at bus times, it does about 3 days work a month!

What exactly makes it so poor?
 

Volvo142

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Believe it was the first Streetdeck to be produced and started life as a demonstrator....
 

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Believe it was the first Streetdeck to be produced and started life as a demonstrator....

I know, but as an established manufacturer, Wright shouldn't have been able to produced something so unreliable.

The only thing it demonstrates why Wrightbus went into administration!
 

Volvo142

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When it was Derby, it spent months sitting in the Mertrux yard just off The Pentagon....
 

Volvo142

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Yes, it was Derby based for a while after the Burton depot was sold to Midland Classic.
 

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Is it the case that 3795 is back at Tamworth? 3763 managed a day in Telford, I believe, before heading to Derby.
 

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It's just that it is tracking on Bustimes in Tamworth.
When a bus transfers from area to area, the ticket machine stays with the original operator. It sometimes doesn't get reprogrammed straightaway, giving the impression that a transferred bus has not left.
 

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it was still with derby yesterday, not tracking annoyingly.

if SP-DC is tracking on Oakwoods its likely to be 3555, which has just had a fresh gearbox...
Surprised they are still spending money on them, if they are getting rid
 

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When was last time Arriva Midlands (excluding Leicester) had new buses?
 

joieman

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Late 2018/Early 2019 with the Derby based streetlites afaik.
I guess the whole group needs a significant amount of investment now, especially with single-decker buses, because long-term, passing around old Pulsars won't cut it.

It was mentioned in the WM Bus Photos Forum that Leicester has received an E400EV, which is numbered DM01-MD and registered AR74 ZEB. It is also green, but the stripe on the side is thinner and solid blue instead of being a gradient.
 
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I guess the whole group needs a significant amount of investment now, especially with single-decker buses, because long-term, passing around old Pulsars won't cut it.

Significant investment is due for exactly that reason over the coming months. Midlands are not due new buses themselves last I heard, but should benefit from cascaded newer build Pulsars as planned.
 

duncombec

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Well, they can't pass Pulsars around forever.
And I don't think that's what EnviroExplorer is suggesting.

As is well known, for whatever reason (including pressure at home to 'not spend money on foreign operations whilst claiming a bailout for your inland ones'), DB throttled expenditure and new vehicle deliveries. Either the new owners alone, or in conunction with DB as part of the sale procedure, have started... but no business will spend everything, everywhere, all at once.

We're already seeing cascades see off some of the oldest vehicles in the group fleet, and more will no doubt follow.
 
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It was mentioned in the WM Bus Photos Forum that Leicester has received an E400EV, which is numbered DM01-MD and registered AR74 ZEB. It is also green, but the stripe on the side is thinner and solid blue instead of being a gradient.
AD are putting ‘seed’ vehicles in the big groups to try and win orders

Arriva have AR74 ZEB
First have FB74 ZEB

etc
 

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AD are putting ‘seed’ vehicles in the big groups to try and win orders

Arriva have AR74 ZEB
First have FB74 ZEB

etc
Curious, though, that Arriva's seems to have Lazzerini seats instead of Isringhausen ones. The last Arriva buses I can remember riding on with Lazzerini seats were those DAF ALX400s from London which wound up in Leicester (RIP).
 

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