Arriva Midlands

Trainman40083 · Monday at 09:30

SSmith2009 said:
One has to wonder how long it will last against the Xprss38 and its every 15 mins frequency.

I often see quite a few people on the Arriva X38 to and from Derby bus station.

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Volvo142 · Monday at 16:51

Half hourly is probably profitable. Every 15 certainly is. When walking through Derby, Arriva seem to be carrying more passengers than TB.

Trainman40083 · Monday at 17:06

Volvo142 said:
Half hourly is probably profitable. Every 15 certainly is. When walking through Derby, Arriva seem to be carrying more passengers than TB.

Are there enough passengers paying money, to cover 6 buses an hour, though? Ones I see on the A38 , I sure don't see many passengers. Is it a good use of resources? We may never know. I guess Arriva will be using brand new Enviro 200MMCs on it, in a few weeks.

joieman · Monday at 22:48

I was told a couple of weeks ago that a handful of Wright GB Kites for Leicester were at Derby depot.

8600 has begun tracking again on Bustimes, so is likely back from its recent trip to Liverpool.

isaac27 · 2026-10-06T08:02:14+0100

Yx76hrr is now in service at Tamworth (3176)

Trainman40083 · 2026-10-06T08:20:13+0100

joieman said:
I was told a couple of weeks ago that a handful of Wright GB Kites for Leicester were at Derby depot.

8600 has begun tracking again on Bustimes, so is likely back from its recent trip to Liverpool.

The forthcoming arrival of extra electric buses, did get a mention on the local TV news

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isaac27 said:
Yx76hrr is now in service at Tamworth (3176)

I thought the 3175 to 3199 batch were destined for Derby

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isaac27 said:
Yx76hrr is now in service at Tamworth (3176)

It doesn't show as taxed on DVLA

busfan308 · 2026-10-06T08:58:26+0100

What is the future of the remaining diesel deckers at Leicester?

Could 4400/4401 return to Derby?

Trainman40083 · 2026-10-06T09:17:46+0100

isaac27 said:
Yx76hrr is now in service at Tamworth (3176)

Just seen a picture. It is actually YY76 HHR

BuhSnarf · 2026-10-06T09:29:21+0100

busfan308 said:
What is the future of the remaining diesel deckers at Leicester?

Could 4400/4401 return to Derby?

I would assume the two 09 plated vehicles (4428/4429) that continue to circulate will go for scrap? As for the 14/15 ones they'll probably carry on somewhere and the 72 plates maybe go to Derby?

joieman · 2026-10-06T12:45:52+0100

BuhSnarf said:
I would assume the two 09 plated vehicles (4428/4429) that continue to circulate will go for scrap? As for the 14/15 ones they'll probably carry on somewhere and the 72 plates maybe go to Derby?

Some of the 72-plates will be staying in Leicestershire for the time being as neither the Hinckley depot nor the Coalville outstation have charging facilities available, and both have requirements for deckers, particularly Hinckley's 158 and also often Hinckley's X84 and Coalville's 15, 16 and 29s.

Volvo142 · 2026-10-06T13:29:40+0100

4538 is now repainted into the new darker Journeymark livery. Bike rack removed but NSA not working.

Russel · 2026-10-06T17:42:54+0100

Some of Tamworth's Versa fleet have had next stop announcements fitted, does this suggest some may be hanging around a bit longer?

Trainman40083 · 2026-10-06T18:14:17+0100

Trainman40083 said:
Just seen a picture. It is actually YY76 HHR

Seems to be several buses registered between YY76 HHP and HHU.

Russel · 2026-10-06T18:44:02+0100

isaac27 said:
Yx76hrr is now in service at Tamworth (3176)

Why are these in a different fleet number series, the initially delivered batch are in the 21xx series?

SSmith2009 · 2026-10-06T18:44:31+0100

joieman said:
Some of the 72-plates will be staying in Leicestershire for the time being as neither the Hinckley depot nor the Coalville outstation have charging facilities available, and both have requirements for deckers, particularly Hinckley's 158 and also often Hinckley's X84 and Coalville's 15, 16 and 29s.

AFAIK Hinckley have 7 E400mmcs permanently based with them.

Coalville depot has electric facilities installed but they are for the Robert's P&R fleet and their electric coaches.

Trainman40083 · 2026-10-06T19:14:11+0100

Russel said:
Why are these in a different fleet number series, the initially delivered batch are in the 21xx series?

I thought 3175 were destined for Derby, with them replacing VDLs

DS25 · 2026-10-06T19:40:29+0100

Trainman40083 said:
I thought 3175 were destined for Derby, with them replacing VDLs

Potentially some are filling in at Tamworth before their 3 extras are delivered, unless plans have changed

MylesW · 2026-10-06T21:17:06+0100

BuhSnarf said:
I would assume the two 09 plated vehicles (4428/4429) that continue to circulate will go for scrap? As for the 14/15 ones they'll probably carry on somewhere and the 72 plates maybe go to Derby?

The last I heard, the plan was for anything younger than 2022 to be moved out of Leicester, with some YX72s staying in Hinckley & Coalville. Also some rumours of the WF Streetlites moving again next year, their replacements are unknown at this point.

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Russel said:
Some of Tamworth's Versa fleet have had next stop announcements fitted, does this suggest some may be hanging around a bit longer?

It’s a legal requirement now anyway, doesn’t matter how long they’re staying, with them still being in service they need them fitted.

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SSmith2009 said:
AFAIK Hinckley have 7 E400mmcs permanently based with them.

Coalville depot has electric facilities installed but they are for the Robert's P&R fleet and their electric coaches.

We have 6 allocated to Hinckley, with 5 for the 158 and 1 for the X84 for the morning school journey. If we ever have more (like right now where we have 8 ), that’s only because of one (or some) of our buses being at Thurmaston for service/MOT/long-term repair, so that’s what we get given in return.

Russel · 2026-10-06T21:37:54+0100

MylesW said:
It’s a legal requirement now anyway, doesn’t matter how long they’re staying, with them still being in service they need them fitted.

I know that, but given younger buses in the fleet still don't have the kit fitted, if they have prioritised the Versas, that would suggest they aren't going anywhere, unfortunately.

That said, they have had years to get this sorted and have only just started, it quite obvious what they think of the law...

Fin447 · 2026-10-06T21:40:48+0100

Russel said:
Why are these in a different fleet number series, the initially delivered batch are in the 21xx series?

The new 31xx batch are full length 6 Cylinder ones and the 21xx are mid sized 4 Cylinder ones

sharpley · 2026-10-07T09:50:49+0100

The Leicester 5 and 5A services no longer serving Queniborough. The council and a local developer built a pedestrian island on a junction in the village and buses no longer can get round without mounting the pavement. Leicestershire Council providing taxis from the village to Melton Road so folks who can't walk can catch the bus from there. Bit of a mess up from whoever approved the junction improvements

isaac27 · 2026-10-07T09:55:22+0100

Russel said:
Why are these in a different fleet number series, the initially delivered batch are in the 21xx series?

These are slightly longer and have the 6.7 litre 6 cylinder engines.

BusLink61 · 2026-10-07T16:16:38+0100

isaac27 said:
Yx76hrr is now in service at Tamworth (3176)

Seems to be seeing use on the 110 along with some of the other new MMC’s now too, presumably they’re on it covering for some of the E400’s.

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