ARMISTICE 100 1918--2018

[SC43090]

It will be 100 years ago on 11th November 1918 that the Armistice day treaty was signed to bring to an end the fighting on land, sea & in the air, The war to end all wars World War 1....

All railway personell who went to fight for their freedoms and their country, from all the railway companies of the day...... WE MUST NEVER FORGET

All railway personell who went to fight for their freedoms and their country from the big four railway companies of the day, who went into battle during World War 2 and who never returned......
WE MUST NEVER FORGET

All personell from other forms of transport and other industries who went into battle to fight for their freedoms & country and who never returned...... WE MUST NEVER FORGET

WE MUST NEVER FORGET

R.I.P

ARMISTICE 100 1918---2018

 

[Busaholic]

I, for one, am unlikely to forget, as I got married on 11th November a large number of years ago. We were going to marry on the 10th, but as that was my future father-in-law's birthday, we decided against. As it happens, he was born on 10th November 1918 so, if he'd lived, he'd have been 100 next Saturday.

 

[birchesgreen]

I called my daughter Poppy so i won't forget. Will you?

 

[SS4]

I shan't forget but at the same time don't let remembrance blind us to the issues of today and future - better to prevent war than step in later.

I would also like to see the religious aspect decoupled from the remembrance events.

 

[Minilad]

I called my daughter Poppy so i won't forget. Will you?

I named my daughter Thursday Is Bin Day so I won't forget. Will you?

 

[HumberSprinter]

SS4, the Poppy is just a symbol of remembrance, it hasno other connotations, in my town I have seen poppies placed on christian crosses, jewish stars, muslim crescents, and also a double diamond shaped stake I can't identify. There is no religious aspect except if it's important to truly remember someone.

The poppy in a way reminds us why we must try to avoid future wars, it certainly doen't encourage them.

 

[birchesgreen]

I named my daughter Thursday Is Bin Day so I won't forget. Will you?

My second is called that, third is Pay the TV Licence

Seriously, i'd like us to return to how it used to be where people could remember in private without being judged for not making a public show of it, especially people in the public eye. The second they are seen without a poppy they get a torrent of criticism and abuse by people who have no idea about what the person feels about it, about what they've done or donated... not they haven't got a piece of plastic pinned to them therefore they are scum.

 

[Minilad]

My second is called that, third is Pay the TV Licence

Seriously, i'd like us to return to how it used to be where people could remember in private without being judged for not making a public show of it, especially people in the public eye. The second they are seen without a poppy they get a torrent of criticism and abuse by people who have no idea about what the person feels about it, about what they've done or donated... not they haven't got a piece of plastic pinned to them therefore they are scum.

Absolutely agree with this. Over the last few years the poppy has been taken over by certain people to be far more than a symbol of remembrance. Witness the grief certain footballers get just because they don't wear one

 

[Busaholic]

Seriously, i'd like us to return to how it used to be where people could remember in private without being judged for not making a public show of it, especially people in the public eye. The second they are seen without a poppy they get a torrent of criticism and abuse by people who have no idea about what the person feels about it, about what they've done or donated... not they haven't got a piece of plastic pinned to them therefore they are scum.

Absolutely right. There was a period about forty/fifty years ago when, other than the Annual Service of Remembrance, both at the Cenotaph and more local ones, you'd be hard pushed to know the significance of the date much in advance of it: indeed, I don't remember an awful lot of poppy wearing, and certainly not by television presenters. I don't think there was any disrespect, it was more that my parents' and grandparents' generations were all too personally aware of world war and its effects and didn't want to be reminded too often. They had experienced it first hand, maybe not in a fighting capacity, but virtually everyone would have known at least one person who had died. I remember too in my first couple of jobs working with people who had suffered from 'shell shock' which would be with them for the rest of their lives, and we knew not to place undue stress on either of them and to leave many things unsaid. I'm afraid not every colleague followed this course, but a quiet word usually sufficed, at least to prevent a recurrence.

 

[adrock1976]

The best thing in my view is to make sure that there is no more war, as those who participated in WW1 were sold a lie in that it would be "the war to end all wars". The catalyst which is overlooked is that the conflict only started after the assassination of Franz Ferdinand in 1914, with the government at the time having seen it as posing a threat to their empire, which was built by invading other peoples' land and stripping it of resources, an example being Australia where the Aborigines (who are the indigenous population) were displaced from their land after the British arrived.

Another thing that is overlooked is those who were conscientious objectors, who did not want to participate in the government's ego trip. Just think for a moment here - why would anybody want to physically hurt or murder somebody who they have never met and have never personally done anything to them just because the government goes on an ego trip to protect not the citizens interests, but their own?

Moving on to the modern day, a starting point to end conflict is for the UK Government to stop selling arms to Saudi Arabia, as those are reports that they are presently being used in the Saudi conflict with Yemen. Also, for the Israeli Government to actually fess up to possessing a nuclear bomb (Ehud Olmert almost did in 2006, but stopped short of actually doing so), to allow weapons inspectors in, and to comply with international law such as withdrawing from the occupied territories as per the resolutions passed by the United Nations General Assembly.

Regarding poppies, I wear the white poppy, as it signifies lives lost in all conflicts.

 

[bnm]

My dog Finn will never forget. Will you?

 

[AlterEgo]

I personally don't wear a poppy of any kind but support the choices of those who do.

 

[Cowley]

I’ve been listening to this over the last week...

(Screenshot of “Voices of the First World War” podcast on BBC 4extra)
It’s gripping, upsetting and extremely moving in equal parts, and is made up of first hand accounts by the men that fought and survived the Great War (it was anything but Great), and who were later interviewed in the 1970s and 1980s.
I highly recommend listening to this as it’s absolutely incredible.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I personally don't wear a poppy of any kind but support the choices of those who do.

Me too. As a pacifist the white poppy would be appropriate, and I did wear a white one up until a decade or so ago. However there seems to be an element of "Virtue signalling" in wearing one these days, so I prefer to just do my own remembering. My grandfather, who served in the second world war, was active in local memorial services and had he not passed away in 2016 would be looking forward to his telegram from the Queen.

So my memorials this year will be more personal.

Sidenote: I've just seen an Arriva Yorkshire bus with a poppy detail cycling on the front destination label, with the side destination board saying "supporting the Poppy Appeal 2016". It's half-arsed corporate actions like this that make me want to boycott the whole thing!

 

[SC43090]

I’ve been listening to this over the last week...
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(Screenshot of “Voices of the First World War” podcast on BBC 4extra)
It’s gripping, upsetting and extremely moving in equal parts, and is made up of first hand accounts by the men that fought and survived the Great War (it was anything but Great), and who were later interviewed in the 1970s and 1980s.
I highly recommend listening to this as it’s absolutely incredible.

It is absolutely recommend listening. iv'e listened to all of them Started on Tuesday with 1914 & the last part is tomorrow afternoon.... it's extremely moving at times it will bring you to tears all there accounts of what took place...... No wonder why so many people never wanted to speak out about what they went through because it was bloody awful.....

So to all those who took part in those interviews they all will be remembered & so will every one else who died as well....

HOPE THEY ARE ALL R.I.P


AT THE GOING DOWN OF THE SUN AND IN THE MORNING, WE WILL REMEMBER THEM

 

[DarloRich]

I am afraid my views on the white poppy and those who wear them wil not be welcome. I disagree with them profoundly.

I do, however, agree that we seem to have lost the point of remembrance Sunday which is a private contemplation of loss and reflection on those who died.

It now seems to be a forced public act of commemoration. It is for the individual to decide how they take part.

 

[Ken H]

Percy Morgan was killed in an air-rain in Ilford in 1944. Along with his wife, Ada, their daughter and her husband, and their baby daughter.
Percy was an engine driver with LNER. (Which i why I mention it here)
Ada was my grandfathers sister.