Are wheelbarrows/carts allowed on trains?

[brad465]

Earlier this evening 2 passengers boarded at Borough Green & Wrotham and travelled to Maidstone East with a wheelbarrow-style cart carrying a large household item that must have just been bought. They parked it in the opposing doorway to the alighting side and it took up more space than a bicycle would, which is subject to peak time restrictions in places, which made me wonder if the former is also allowed? In this particular case no-one brought them up on it for info.

 

[Trackman]

from National Rail below, remember leave your hang-gliders and canoes at home

Train Travel with Luggage | National Rail

You’re welcome to bring up to 3 items of luggage on the train, at no extra cost. Here’s everything you need to know about luggage on trains.

www.nationalrail.co.uk

The following luggage items are not permitted on trains:

• Items larger than 1 metre in any dimension that you cannot carry without assistance. This includes canoes, hang-gliders, large furniture and large musical instruments
• Surfboards
• Motorcycles, mopeds, motor scooters and motorised cycles
• e-Scooters may not be permitted by a train company on their own services. Check their Cycle Policy before you travel
• Any animal or article which may cause inconvenience to passengers due to its size or behaviour. For more information on travelling with animals, see Train Travel with Pets

 

[TheBigD]

Around a decade ago someone tried to take a pony on board...

 

[fgwrich]

And only until a few years ago you could happily take a Surfboard on your train to Cornwall (mostly Newquay). Depressing that the only option now is with the Night Riviera and a 150.

 

[jackot]

And only until a few years ago you could happily take a Surfboard on your train to Cornwall (mostly Newquay). Depressing that the only option now is with the Night Riviera and a 150.

I remember doing that a few years back with the HSTs to Cornwall, putting my board in the Guard's Van. It's a big shame that you can't do it with the IETs, as it means there isn't much choice but driving or taking the Night Riviera as you said.

 

[Malaxa]

I'm easy with wheelbarrows, provided they're not e-barrows with Chinese lithium batteries.

 

[brad465]

Here's a photo I took of the cart in the OP:


Image description: train interior with cart/wheelbarrow visible with household item boxed up on it.

 

[alistairlees]

Here's a photo I took of the cart in the OP:


Image description: train interior with cart/wheelbarrow visible with household item boxed up on it.

A toilet. Guess he couldn't wait.

 

[brad465]

A toilet. Guess he couldn't wait.

Makes a change from using one of the ones on display in a DIY store.

 

[43066]

from National Rail below, remember leave your hang-gliders and canoes at home

Train Travel with Luggage | National Rail

You’re welcome to bring up to 3 items of luggage on the train, at no extra cost. Here’s everything you need to know about luggage on trains.

www.nationalrail.co.uk

I’ve seen more than one motorbike being carried….

 

[fgwrich]

A toilet. Guess he couldn't wait.

Well, it is a bit of a lottery if your train on SouthEastern Metro comes with one!

 

[brad465]

Well, it is a bit of a lottery if your train on SouthEastern Metro comes with one!

It's a bit of a lottery finding a working toilet on any Southeastern service

 

[Trackman]

Around a decade ago someone tried to take a pony on board...

Surely the booking office clerk must have spotted it looking at the video.

Well, it is a bit of a lottery if your train on SouthEastern Metro comes with one!

About 5 years ago I was at London bridge and wanted the loo, rather than pay thought I'd walk up to the platform to use the free men's urinals.
To my horror it had been demolished, then I thought 'Well go on the train', then it dawned on me as the train arrived, what toilet?

 

[class ep-09]

Quite few times I saw wheelbarrows full of beer loaded on to HST at Paddington that was going to Castle Cary during Glastonbury .

 

[theking]

How about this person pushing a cupboard on the train with a b&q trolley and hitting the top of the doors!

 

[Ediswan]

How about this fool.

A classic case of getting 'stuck' when problem solving. Turn the trolley around, slide the wardrobe onto the train, load the trolley separately. (Not saying that would be legal, but it would work.)

 

[dk1]

One of the station adopters regularly boards with his wheelbarrow between Brundall Gardens & Brundall & vice versa.

 

[AMD]

I've had a workie going to work with his once.

 

[JamieL]

Around a decade ago someone tried to take a pony on board...

So was the pony allowed onboard?

 

[Geoff DC]

Back in the 80s I brought a full marine radar set complete with 4'+ rotating antenna on a borrowed sackbarrow from the IOW to Bristol.

Getting it on to the Mk1s of the time was a fiddle, but done without inconveniencing anyone for the leisurely 33-hauled crawl west.

Maybe on a service with more urgency, it might have made a difference, but from posts here & elsewhere the line still lives up to it's leisurely credentials.

 

[Dr_Paul]

I remember being on a PW working party on the Ffestiniog, mending fencing and unclogging drains and culverts, and when we finished we stopped a service train and loaded all our equipment in a carriage vestibule to return to Minfordd, although I don't recall our having a wheelbarrow.

I also remember a bloke taking a motor scooter on a train at Clapham Junction. I helped him take it up the stairs to the platform as he was having difficulty taking it up by himself. He told me it had conked out so he was taking it home by train.

 

[Ashley Hill]

It’s no worse than a pram that’s being used to carry a mothers shopping.

 

[D6975]

I remember doing that a few years back with the HSTs to Cornwall, putting my board in the Guard's Van. It's a big shame that you can't do it with the IETs, as it means there isn't much choice but driving or taking the Night Riviera as you said.

That was an extra TGS that used to be added to the Padd-Newquay HST in the summer, dedicated for surfboards.

 

[dk1]

That was an extra TGS that used to be added to the Padd-Newquay HST in the summer, dedicated for surfboards.

Yes, was unusual to see 2+9 HST formations out west.

 

[RichardAsh1981]

Items larger than 1 metre in any dimension that you cannot carry without assistance. This includes canoes, hang-gliders, large furniture and large musical instruments

I'm having some trouble parsing this. A lot of musical instruments are larger than 1m in one direction, but can be carried by one person without assistance (even a guitar ...). I presume these are permitted but it's not awfully clear. It's even less clear when you consider a BBb tuba - yes, I can carry it (but not too far), and it lives in a case with wheels on (which makes it a reasonably easy item to drag around). It'll take up a lot of room in the vestibule!

I once saw someone buying a ticket at Waterloo with two cellos, but too her credit she is carrying both of them! https://www.flickr.com/photos/30661871@N03/27162019624/in/photolist-Hods8b

 

[gmaguire]

How about this person pushing a cupboard on the train with a b&q trolley and hitting the top of the doors!

This is ridiculous. Why am I not surprised it’s the Overground. I wonder how long they held that train.

 

[Bletchleyite]

This is ridiculous. Why am I not surprised it’s the Overground. I wonder how long they held that train.

You see this sort of thing in places of low car ownership. I've seen similar in Hamburg.

 

[Thirteen]

I'd understand a wheelbarrow but surely a cupboard is taking the mickey. Just get it delivered!

 

[PG]

I've had a workie going to work with his once.

Was he going to Barrow ?

I'll get my coat ...

 

[Scott1]

On my patch we will often transfer things between stations in passenger trains, wheelbarrows, trolleys full of grit, cleaning supplies, etc. Quick and easy, as long as the guards happy and theres room of course.