Are 67s still doing Manchester to Holyhead?

[stretchdj74]

Does anyone know if the 09.53 1D34 Manchester Pic to Holyhead and 13.07 1H89 return are still 67 hauled? RTT is suggesting it is. If they are likely to continue for the summer timetable? Many thanks.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Does anyone know if the 09.53 1D34 Manchester Pic to Holyhead and 13.07 1H89 return are still 67 hauled? RTT is suggesting it is. If they are likely to continue for the summer timetable? Many thanks.

Yes they are. Currently 67014 but due to be replaced by 67010 or 67029 at some point this week. Not sure about the summer but not heard it’s going to change.

 

[stretchdj74]

Great, thanks Tom.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

67029 has replaced 67014 for now.

 

[nat67]

The plan is to use Mk4's to replace Mk3's. So the 67's will still be around on that route. As to wether it will be the same diagrams I'm not sure.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

The plan is to use Mk4's to replace Mk3's. So the 67's will still be around on that route. As to wether it will be the same diagrams I'm not sure.

The Mk4s are going on Holyhead-Cardiff (3 sets, 3tpd each way), replacing the Mk3s on "Gerald", and still 67-hauled.
Holyhead-Manchester will go back to DMUs next year.

 

[stretchdj74]

67029 has replaced 67014 for now.

Thanks Tom

 

[stretchdj74]

The Mk4s are going on Holyhead-Cardiff (3 sets, 3tpd each way), replacing the Mk3s on "Gerald", and still 67-hauled.
Holyhead-Manchester will go back to DMUs next year.

Thanks for that, I'm guessing it will be a good few months before the Mk4s are free and have been refurbished/tidied up.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

The Mk4s are going on Holyhead-Cardiff (3 sets, 3tpd each way), replacing the Mk3s on "Gerald", and still 67-hauled.
Holyhead-Manchester will go back to DMUs next year.

Gutted! Only thing that makes the commute to/from work enjoyable is being hauled by a 67!

 

[Y Ddraig Coch]

Gutted! Only thing that makes the commute to/from work enjoyable is being hauled by a 67!

and the 16.50 from Manchester is always packed as far as Chester.....I hope it is a decent double set DMU or it wont be much fun at all in 2 or 3 carriages.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

and the 16.50 from Manchester is always packed as far as Chester.....I hope it is a decent double set DMU or it wont be much fun at all in 2 or 3 carriages.

Big time. Needs to be either 2+2 or 3+2 175s.

 

[Eccles1983]

There is extra capacity with the northern service starting soon albeit from Victoria.

Hopefully people realise this and use it, and the folk who won't get a stop on the northern service (Runcorn east, frodsham, helsby) benefit.

But knowing passengers as I do I doubt it.

 

[mrcaa]

There is extra capacity with the northern service starting soon albeit from Victoria.

Hopefully people realise this and use it, and the folk who won't get a stop on the northern service (Runcorn east, frodsham, helsby) benefit.

But knowing passengers as I do I doubt it.

Since Northern are keeping so quiet about it I doubt many regular commuters will even know it exists. Unless Northern put up posters or something I imagine people won’t bother to check the timetables and just carry on getting their usual train.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

The Newton le Willows commuters will soon discover the Victoria service.
They currently boost the North Wales train loads significantly in the peaks.

 

[Cheshire Rover]

The Newton le Willows commuters will soon discover the Victoria service.
They currently boost the North Wales train loads significantly in the peaks.

The peak time Northern services from Victoria at 1707 appears not to be stopping at NLW. Bonus for us WBQ to Ellesmere Port passengers who may get a seat.

 

[Cheshire Rover]

There is extra capacity with the northern service starting soon albeit from Victoria.

Hopefully people realise this and use it, and the folk who won't get a stop on the northern service (Runcorn east, frodsham, helsby) benefit.

But knowing passengers as I do I doubt it.

The peak services all stop at Helsby. Three in the morning and two in the evening. The 1707 from Victoria skips to WBQ then all stations to Ellesmere Port.

 

[mrcaa]

The peak services all stop at Helsby. Three in the morning and two in the evening. The 1707 from Victoria skips to WBQ then all stations to Ellesmere Port.

Looks like the Helsby car park might be filling up quicker in that case.

 

[Cheshire Rover]

Looks like the Helsby car park might be filling up quicker in that case.

Indeed. Also as the E Port service in the morning is a convenient time, passengers from Chester may use Helsby to interchange from the 0712 TFW service and the same of an evening linking the 1707 from Vic with the TFW service that leaves Picc at 1715.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

67029 back on the Manchester - Holyhead today.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Now back to 67014 on the Manchester - Holyhead.

 

[Oscar46016]

67010 on the Cardiffs

 

[FrodshamJnct]

67014 failed yesterday and taken out of service at Chester. 67020 was brought in for today and has failed at Manchester!

 

[MatthewRead]

Will this train have summer Saturday diagrams again?

 

[ic31420]

Interesting... What cycle provision is available on this holyhead train and any decent discount tickets?

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Will this train have summer Saturday diagrams again?

Not heard that it won’t, but will try and find out.

 

[D.K.TAYLOR]

67014 failed yesterday and taken out of service at Chester. 67020 was brought in for today and has failed at Manchester!

Noted yesterday at 12-50 67001 towing dead 67020 and stock through Man Piccadilly platform 14

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Noted yesterday at 12-50 67001 towing dead 67020 and stock through Man Piccadilly platform 14

Yeah 001 was sent to rescue 020. It’s a 175 today.

 

[gazthomas]

Interesting... What cycle provision is available on this holyhead train and any decent discount tickets?

Advances Manchester to Holyhead are typically £26 each way so an off peak return is only £3 or so more. As for bikes, there is a guards van in the driver trailer so I'm hoping they use this. I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong

 

[FrodshamJnct]

Advances Manchester to Holyhead are typically £26 each way so an off peak return is only £3 or so more. As for bikes, there is a guards van in the driver trailer so I'm hoping they use this. I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong

Yep sure I’ve seen this happen. Others just stand with them in the vestibules.

 

[hexagon789]

Advances Manchester to Holyhead are typically £26 each way so an off peak return is only £3 or so more. As for bikes, there is a guards van in the driver trailer so I'm hoping they use this. I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong

Yes, they can use the van space for bikes. The Mk4s DVT vans get used for luggage as well sometimes so I imagine they'll continue that with TfW.