222meridianlad
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I'd be genuinely interested as i cannot remember exactly when the service was suspended in fact i thought it was still running can anyone help me out here?
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Anyone know exactly when the Leeds service was Suspended on EMR
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Liam L
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13/05/2022 was the last day
VC00
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They were running until the end of the HSTs, then continued being run using voyagers until the next timetable change. Would have been May 22 if I'm not mistaken
222meridianlad
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thank you much appreciated!
D365
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Sounds about right - I used the Leeds-Derby service once or twice, but now that the HSTs are gone, there isn't any need for EMR to operate to Leeds.
I do miss the added variety on the Sheffield-Leeds route, mind.
WizCastro197
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Without wanting to completely hijack the thread, but were Scarborough services withdrawn around the same time?
Statto
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The EMR HSTs were based at Neville Hill, which is why they ran to Leeds, so EMR to Leeds was scrapped after the HSTs were withdrawn.
Not quite, it lasted a bit longer than the EMR HSTs did, using Meridians in the last few months.
They never ran again after Covid.
VC00
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but do they not run during the summer? Sure I saw a few heading to Scarborough last August
ShadowKnight
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Was there no value to run these services to Leeds/Scarborough/Burton on Trent other than operational convenience?
Under the franchise model, where the marginal operating costs were moderate and they could more than cover this with the generated revenues (let alone reduction in lost revenue through overcrowding), it was easy enough to justify such extensions.
Unfortunately under today's disjointed model, with the DfT now being responsible for costs and the Treasury receiving the revenues, there is no incentive for the DfT to agree to such entrepreneurism if it adds even a penny in costs. The Minister has said that he intends to end this perverse situation, but there seems to be no indication of this being more than a platitude.
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