Anti-maskers given free roam to post

[ffm]

It’s utterly disgusting that such people can use this forum

 

[king_walnut]

"BAN EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T HOLD THE SAME OPINION AS ME"

 

[king_walnut]

If I see someone who I feel is misinformed I will try to put my point across in the hope of changing their view. Banning people is a ridiculous idea.

 

[ffm]

Not when they are putting across dangerous stuff and not listening to the truth, your prior post shows that you aren’t someone who could sensibly discuss

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Hoist by your own petard me thinks

 

[SouthStand]

In before the lock...

 

[brad465]

In before the lock...

Ditto, it's not even in the right section either.

 

[Scotrail314209]

Is this a troll?

It just seems a bit random to post.... and in the wrong section.

 

[YorksLad12]

I for one will defend the right of anyone who wants to post while not wearing a mask. Or, as in my current case, trousers.

 

[Pshambro]

Never thought I would type this but I preferred the seat chat and class 800 9 car vs 5. Funny how things turn out !

 

[king_walnut]

There is help available for anger issues. I hope you can get better.

 

[ffm]

This is in relation to a post in heritage which the forum ‘rules’ mean that any reply I make is compiled into prior posts. There’s an anti-masker there

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Is this a troll?

It just seems a bit random to post.... and in the wrong section.

Which is the right section to complain about anti-maskers posting freely?

 

[Scotrail314209]

This is in relation to a post in heritage which the forum ‘rules’ mean that any reply I make is compiled into prior posts. There’s an anti-masker there

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Which is the right section to complain about anti-maskers posting freely?

I'd assume General Discussion... or the COVID section.

 

[Alex27]

Life would be boring if I didn't have people to disagree with

 

[Failed Unit]

Maybe post here.

19th July Lockdown Easing - Observations and Compliance

BTP PSCO on Thameslink telling people they need to mask up as it's getting busy under Section 6.8 of the National Rail bylaws Not what the Byelaws were intended for, at all. Not convinced that’d be a legitimate interpretation, either.

www.railforums.co.uk

or here.

From Monday 19th July - Government has laid Regulations revoking (most) restrictions

Based on the government success rate for implementing anything that requires an element of IT highly doubt that anything will see the light of day

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[Journeyman]

Well, I generally follow the mask rules because I want a quiet life and I don't want to cause hassle for other people, but there’s virtually no evidence they actually do anything.

 

[yorkie]

It’s utterly disgusting that such people can use this forum

Which people?

People are entitled to not wear masks. They are also equally entitled to wear masks, whether they be effective ones or ineffective ones.

If you have a problem with any forum post, this needs to be reported using the report button. In your report, please state which part(s) of the post are causing concern and what rule(s) you think may have been broken and/or what your concerns are. Please do not re-publish any posts that are reported as causing concern and please do not respond/react to them or make any other reference to them on any forum post.

 

[flitwickbeds]

As of today it is not a requirement to wear a mask anywhere except where the owner enforces it on their private property. For transport that's largely London Underground.

So anyone who chooses not to wear a mask outside of those settings is not (necessarily) anti-mask, just making a choice.

I travelled into London today without a mask and it was a true blessing. For weeks, no - months, I have been forced to wear a mask despite being the only person in the entire carriage on most trips. When I'm not, there's generally only one or two more and they're at least 5 meters away. All that time I have risked an up-to £10k fine for daring to not cover my mouth when I'm on my own in a metal tube. I go to work, interact with dozens of colleagues, use multiple facilities, sometimes even go to the pub surrounded by dozens more people. In none of those scenarios am I obliged to wear a mask nor maintain social distance.

Then it's back to me and the driver on a train departing at gone-midnight on the way home where I'm facing that £10k fine again should I dare to de-mask.

Am I "anto-mask" too?

 

[VauxhallandI]

This is in relation to a post in heritage which the forum ‘rules’ mean that any reply I make is compiled into prior posts. There’s an anti-masker there

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Which is the right section to complain about anti-maskers posting freely?

Got to be a troll; 7/10

 

[ffm]

why?

 

[Scotrail12]

Oh I'm so sorry - what would you like us to say?

 

[ffm]

This was someone who was whinging about having to wear a mask, the useless government have said it’s up to businesses to say whether mask should be worn, or not, whilst allowing Covid to run free. People who have to work on railways deserve to be safe at work and anti-maskers deserve nothing

 

[py_megapixel]

Preventing people from participating in discussion because they will express opinions you disagree with is just a few steps away from a completely censored Orwellian society. Is that what you want?

I don't agree with a lot of the views posted on this forum. This includes both Covid-related and more widely. I know I have posted opinions in the past which other people disagree with - often those opinions have been ill-informed in which case I change them according to new information I have acquired, but sometimes they are either sufficiently trivial, sufficiently subjective, or sufficiently likely to change with one's disposition that 'agree to disagree' is the correct (and often only) solution.

However, regardless of the outcome, the presence of conflicting opinions is a sign of a healthy society where citizens feel they have freedom to express themselves as they want, and I wouldn't want to sacrifice that.

Therefore one of the very, very few cases where preventing expression of an opinion is acceptable as far as I am concerned is where it poses a direct threat to freedom of expression (which anti-maskers, however disgusting you may find them, don't). And there are some opinions that are at direct odds with everyone being allowed freedom of expression - the people who argue that LGBT+ people should not show their true selves in public is an example - which I find ironic and horrible.

 

[Scotrail12]

This was someone who was whinging about having to wear a mask, the useless government have said it’s up to businesses to say whether mask should be worn, or not, whilst allowing Covid to run free. People who have to work on railways deserve to be safe at work and anti-maskers deserve nothing

Do you believe in freedom of speech?

 

[ffm]

Even when what they say is outright lies? Go on argue that

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Free speech has its limits

 

[Failed Unit]

This was someone who was whinging about having to wear a mask, the useless government have said it’s up to businesses to say whether mask should be worn, or not, whilst allowing Covid to run free. People who have to work on railways deserve to be safe at work and anti-maskers deserve nothing

you are aware some people can’t wear masks for medical reasons? I would be stuck in the house if I had to wear a mask. I am no more at risk of catching COVID then people wearing masks (unless I am missing something)

 

[Scotrail12]

Even when what they say is outright lies? Go on argue that

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Free speech has its limits

I'd say it's perfectly justified to question some of these health measures given where we're at with the pandemic and the impact that it has on people's lives. It's really quite unpleasant to those who have issues with mask wearing to be acting like this.

Feel free to point out what is a lie and provide a fair rebuttal to what they say.

 

[Failed Unit]

Even when what they say is outright lies? Go on argue that

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Free speech has its limits

Then correct them with facts. It is called debate.

 

[ffm]

This forum is like a far right one. Quite appalling

 

[Failed Unit]

This forum is like a far right one. Quite appalling

i have often accused it of loony left.

 

[VauxhallandI]

This forum is like a far right one. Quite appalling

You are coming across as quite unstable. I do hope you take 5 mins out to take stock