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Another idiot - surfing at Lincoln....
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The idiot wasn't looking for a way down. He stayed up there being a cocky little oxygen stealer until about an hour later having been caught surfing the back leaving Lincoln. The train was brought to a stand at West Holmes and when the train crew attempted to get him off the back he decided to climb on to the roof. He then ran away because of course BTP hadn't turned up in the interim.
Should have hoofed lumps of ballast at him until he came down by choice or fell off. This wasn't a suicidal cry for help, this was someone playing the big man who fully deserved a cracked skull. But no, his safety has to be the priority.
Should have hoofed lumps of ballast at him until he came down by choice or fell off. This wasn't a suicidal cry for help, this was someone playing the big man who fully deserved a cracked skull. But no, his safety has to be the priority.
What is an "oxygen stealer"?
What you have said "should" have been the way to handle the situation indicates that you know the individual, his health and why he was in that situation. I can't imagine that the trespass offence warrants treatment more appropriate of a barbarous mob. Maybe you could justify why you think such treatment would be warranted.
Peter Mugridge
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A waste of air.
Because I have little to no tolerance for people causing other people to be stranded on several trains with no welfare facilities as a result of their own misbehaviour, absolutely no tolerance at all for train surfers who frighten the life out of train staff, and I believe chucking objects at him would have been the most expeditious way to encourage him to decide to get down. As I have said, he was hanging off the rear cab when the train departed and elected to mount the roof when told to get down.
Oxygen stealer has been explained.
Oxygen stealer has been explained.
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SpacePhoenix
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He was probably very lucky that there's no OLE there (can't see any signs of OLE in the picture in the news story)
Searle
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Ha, I got stuck in this last night. Was meant to be on the 19:35 from Newark, arriving at 20:01. However, a previous train got cancelled, so I was on the 20:03. The guard was amazing at keeping us informed, but it was a bit demoralising sitting on the outskirts of lincoln for 80 minutes.
We had to wait for the chap to get down from the train, and more waiting as he ran along the tracks and police had to chase him from about 8:30 for about 50 minutes. We moved about a block forward, before stopping again, and we were informed that the police had just done a headcount, and someone was missing, so we had to wait until the missing police officer was found
Then of course, we had to wait for congestion into the station to be relieved, before we finally arrived at 21:49 -.-
No OLE anywhere around Lincoln (we don't have that modern day electricity stuff
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We had to wait for the chap to get down from the train, and more waiting as he ran along the tracks and police had to chase him from about 8:30 for about 50 minutes. We moved about a block forward, before stopping again, and we were informed that the police had just done a headcount, and someone was missing, so we had to wait until the missing police officer was found
Then of course, we had to wait for congestion into the station to be relieved, before we finally arrived at 21:49 -.-No OLE anywhere around Lincoln (we don't have that modern day electricity stuff
)You do no favours to yourself using such spiteful language as, "hoofed lumps of ballast at him until he ... fell off" and "who fully deserved a cracked skull". It is offensive and unnecessary in a civilised forum, and fails to be an objective point of view.
Please don't labour under the false impression that I'm remotely bothered 
He knew what he was doing and it wasn't a suicide attempt. It was causing disruption for the sake of it because he had been rumbled train surfing.
I have every tolerance in the world for people at the end of their tether who flip out.
I also have no hesitation in having a total disregard for the welfare of someone who thinks train surfing is a way of getting their kicks.
Would I actually go and throw ballast at them? No. But it would resolve the matter more quickly, I would wager, than waiting for them to decide to come down of their own accord. I also make no apology for feeling irritated that dealing with it more force with less regard for the welfare of the aggressor is not an option.
The priority should be getting the trains moving again.
He knew what he was doing and it wasn't a suicide attempt. It was causing disruption for the sake of it because he had been rumbled train surfing.
I have every tolerance in the world for people at the end of their tether who flip out.
I also have no hesitation in having a total disregard for the welfare of someone who thinks train surfing is a way of getting their kicks.
Would I actually go and throw ballast at them? No. But it would resolve the matter more quickly, I would wager, than waiting for them to decide to come down of their own accord. I also make no apology for feeling irritated that dealing with it more force with less regard for the welfare of the aggressor is not an option.
The priority should be getting the trains moving again.
Oxygen thieves are pondlife that don't even merit the name "cockwomble".
The lovely cherubs that appear to serve no function to society, doing stuff like this for their own enjoyment, throwing stones at road/rail traffic, slashing emergency vehicle tyres, harming animals for their own twisted enjoyment, mugging 90 year olds for their pension money too scared to try someone remotely close to their own age/health.
Please don't labour under the false impression that I'm remotely bothered
He knew what he was doing and it wasn't a suicide attempt. It was causing disruption for the sake of it because he had been rumbled train surfing.
I have every tolerance in the world for people at the end of their tether who flip out.
I also have no hesitation in having a total disregard for the welfare of someone who thinks train surfing is a way of getting their kicks.
Would I actually go and throw ballast at them? No. But it would resolve the matter more quickly, I would wager, than waiting for them to decide to come down of their own accord. I also make no apology for feeling irritated that dealing with it more force with less regard for the welfare of the aggressor is not an option.
The priority should be getting the trains moving again.
Much as I can sympathise with your irritation I fail to see why assault and potentially committing murder can possibly be classed as an appropriate response. Sometimes I wish that knob heads could be battered everytime they cause misery to others, but in the end, that would mean losing our civility and humanity, which would be worse in the long term.
I should probably point out that the internet offers a perfect spouting place for frustration without any requirement for a 'reasonable' test to be applied
I obviously don't have the answer but I firmly believe in cases like this it must never be waiting for the person involved to choose to finish it because that empowers them in their desire to cause disruption. What I am saying by admittedly using an extreme and excessive example, is that their welfare should not be a primary consideration in removing them from the railway to allow stranded trains to move.
I obviously don't have the answer but I firmly believe in cases like this it must never be waiting for the person involved to choose to finish it because that empowers them in their desire to cause disruption. What I am saying by admittedly using an extreme and excessive example, is that their welfare should not be a primary consideration in removing them from the railway to allow stranded trains to move.
Gemz91
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I suppose if someones sat on a train roof, the police are quite powerless to get them down, unless they involve the fire brigade too and their only option is to wait until they get by their own choice.
Robertj21a
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I think a taser would be quite effective......
...Or put the train through a low bridge
I sympathise with LowLevel here. Obviously we can't risk killing him but if some light injury were to befall the fool through efforts to remove him, I don't find that morally problematic.
PHILIPE
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Except you can`t wash voyagers in it.
If there's no OLE, and assuming that all trains potentially passing through on any adjacent lines had been stopped, why does it have to be the Transport police that attend? What is stopping the local police force turning up to make an arrest?
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