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Not the same as the initial example, but somewhat interesting.

In the Nottingham area, Carlton station has platforms either side of a level crossing that essentially marks the end of Netherfield’s ‘high street.’ Meanwhile, Netherfield station is about a mile away and arguably could be called Colwick. It actually opened as Colwick in 1878. 5 years later it then was renamed Netherfield & Colwick, before being changed again to Netherfield 18 years later. This lasted for 24 years before it reverted the joint naming. 49 years later in ‘74 it again became Netherfield. It probably has changed name more times than trains currently stop there per day!
My 1959 LMR timetable has the Midland line station as Carlton and Netherfield for Gedling and Colwick - covering all options!

Rotherham Masborough (now closed) is an odd one.
Originally, Masbrough, always the district's local name, was a separate settlement to Rotherham, and Masbrough was the name given to the first station.
But the MR changed it to Masbrough and Rotherham in 1896, and then mis-spelt it to Rotherham Masborough in 1908.
You also see the curse of Masbro' and Masboro' abbreviations, just as you see for Peterborough/Peterboro'.
 

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Always thought Oxenholme was a peculiar one for a relatively important station on the WCML. Obscurely named after a farm on the outskirts of Kendal, which later grew to be a small village. It was originally named Kendal Junction, which to me makes more sense as the station is just on the outskirts of Kendal and is the main station of the town.
The Western Region would have called it Kendal Parkway, and the branch station in the town Kendal General!

Separately, Heswall station, on the Borderlands line, is in all honesty nowhere near Heswall, which is a quite significant place well removed from the railway. It used to have its own station, nearer to (though not in) the centre, on a different line closed in the 1950s. The current station is outside Heswall, through the adjacent urban area of Gayton, out to the far extremity of the houses there, and a bit beyond that. It was long called Heswall Hills (equally ironic as the landscape around is flat), but the name was shortened about 30 years ago.
 
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Micheldever is miles away from Micheldever village, however now has its own village called Micheldever station village according to Google.
It's 2 miles North of the village and was originally called Andover Road, which is a further 10-12 mile North - a good 4 hour walk (maybe 90 minutes in a horse 'n' carriage)
 

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  • Kings Norton is actually in Cottridge.
  • As far as I know New Street has never had an entrance actually on New Street.
 

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Kendal Junction, surely?
Not quite, because the branch goes beyond Kendal, possibly the majority are going through to Windermere. I suspect most going from Kendal town itself do so at Oxenholme rather than wait for the few minutes journey from their local minor halt. Now Stourbridge, where the branch has only ever gone from Town to Junction, is different.
 

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In Southampton, the best example would have to be Millbrook. Should be called Freemantle, or Payne's Road. Nowhere near Millbrook.
 

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Not quite, because the branch goes beyond Kendal, possibly the majority are going through to Windermere. I suspect most going from Kendal town itself do so at Oxenholme rather than wait for the few minutes journey from their local minor halt. Now Stourbridge, where the branch has only ever gone from Town to Junction, is different.

I think the point was more that "Parkway" is a 1980s BR thing. They might have renamed it, sure, but as originally built it'd likely have been Kendal Junction or even Windermere Junction - indeed it's in some ways odd that it isn't, as that naming is used all over the place, including nearby e.g. Rainford Junction, Llandudno Junction. (And people do use the latter as a Parkway, very much so).

I would agree, though, that Oxenholme is probably more used by locals (mostly by car) and Kendal by tourists. Were it built now Kendal Parkway would be a very likely name.
 

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  • Kings Norton is actually in Cottridge.
  • As far as I know New Street has never had an entrance actually on New Street.
The first entrance to Birmingham New Street (when it was just London & North Western Railway, largely replacing Curzon Street) in the 1850s was indeed from New Street. Technically at the end of a short cul-de-sac called Station Approach.

The concept of Stephenson Street came with later town centre redevelopment.
 

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I think the point was more that "Parkway" is a 1980s BR thing. They might have renamed it, sure, but as originally built it'd likely have been Kendal Junction or even Windermere Junction - indeed it's in some ways odd that it isn't, as that naming is used all over the place, including nearby e.g. Rainford Junction, Llandudno Junction. (And people do use the latter as a Parkway, very much so).

I would agree, though, that Oxenholme is probably more used by locals (mostly by car) and Kendal by tourists. Were it built now Kendal Parkway would be a very likely name.
Didn't Virgin propose renaming Oxenholme to "Kendal (The Lake District)" or something along those lines at one point?

Think I read that in a magazine sometime in the early 2000s, though it was RAIL so take with a grain of salt.
 

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It's an interesting question how best to describe the location of Gatehouse-of-Fleet station, but it certainly wasn't anywhere near Gatehouse-of-Fleet! :D
 

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Wigan North Western is of course not in the north western part of town, which is confusing for those who don't know the history of the name.
To make it even more confusing both Wigan North Western and Wigan Wallgate are on Wallgate and Wigan North Western is south of Wigan wallgate. The platforms at North Western are actually south-east of those at Wallgate, though the entrance to Wigan North Western is slightly West of that of Wigan Wallgate.
 
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To make it even more confusing both Wigan North Western and Wigan Wallgate are on Wallgate and Wigan North Western is south of Wigan wallgate. The platforms at wallgate are actually south-east of those at north-westnern, though the entrance to Wigan North Western is slightly West of that of Wigan Wallgate.
Wigan North Western got its name because it was on the London & North Western Railway.
 

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Wigan North Western got its name because it was on the London & North Western Railway.
Indeed which I only just found out, I just thought it was because it was in the North West, and only just questioned the fact that I can't think of any other Wigan's in the country, and there's definitely none with an operational (NR) train station or I would've known about them.
Just learned the name as a child and never questioned it. (does it need to be named Wigan West Coast now for Avanti :) ?)
 

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Bishopstone Station on the Seaford branch isn't in Bishopstone, it's on the western edge of Seaford itself. Bishopstone is a tiny village north-west of, but completely separated by greenbelt, from Seaford proper. If anything, the station is closer to East Blatchington, which is now part of Seaford.
 

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To make it even more confusing both Wigan North Western and Wigan Wallgate are on Wallgate and Wigan North Western is south of Wigan wallgate. The platforms at wallgate are actually south-east of those at north-westnern, though the entrance to Wigan North Western is slightly West of that of Wigan Wallgate.
Did you mean that the other way round?

The platforms at North Western are south east of those at Wallgate.
 

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