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I'm starting to see an increase of our four legged friends using the trains nowadays and I was wondering if any of the train crews have had any memorable moments of animals on trains. I write this thread because of a particular animal accident that I saw this morning situated all the way down the stairs on the staircase to platforms 4 and 5 at Manchester Victoria!!!
 
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I made the mistake once of asking someone what was in the pet carrier. They opened it to show me a six foot snake!
 

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I made the mistake once of asking someone what was in the pet carrier. They opened it to show me a six foot snake!

Did you order him/her off? Are snakes even allowed on the railway? I know what my reaction would be - :shock::shock:
 

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Did you order him/her off? Are snakes even allowed on the railway? I know what my reaction would be - :shock::shock:

No, I just said "Ok, I wasn't expecting that", had a chat and moved on.

There is nothing against snakes in the rules, AFAIK, and it was in a closed container - I was the one who asked! If it had been draped around his neck or causing a nuisance, it might have been different.
 

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Did you order him/her off? Are snakes even allowed on the railway? I know what my reaction would be - :shock::shock:
Reminds me of the famous "Punch" cartoon from 1869:-
The caption of the cartoon reads:

Railway Porter (to Old Lady travelling with a Menagerie of Pets). “‘STATION MASTER SAY, MUM, AS CATS IS ‘DOGS,’ AND RABBITS IS ‘DOGS,’ AND SO’S PARROTS; BUT THIS ‘ERE ‘TORTIS’ IS A INSECT, SO THERE AIN’T NO CHARGE FOR IT!” [Punch, 1869, Vol. 57, p. 96]
 

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strange6, don't think much of said doggie's owner, just bone idle. No, not a joke, it's disgusting.

I agree with you. For such a busy station, It's bang out of order.
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Did you order him/her off? Are snakes even allowed on the railway? I know what my reaction would be - :shock::shock:

I don't mind seeing animals on trains but sometimes their owners have them touching the seats which I don't think is right. the last thing you need on your suite is dog hair when going to work
 

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I took my dog on the train once. He was extremely obedient, but he was terrified of the 144 and spent most of his time hiding under my legs in the bicycle area (under the folding seats). It's amazing how many people stopped to make a fuss of him, considering he was a big (quite smelly) old Labrador! The only person he did possibly annoy was the guard, who almost tripped over him at the station we boarded at. I waited by the guard's local door, and as the guard stepped out, the dog tried to board through his legs. I think he saw the funny side, and I did apologise.
 

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trentside, it doesn't surprise me that any dog isn't shaken up with the rough ride of a 144.

I know that Labradors are adorable dogs & are very friendly, but can also have a good apatite, therefore can be a bit chunky!

I think I would have been laughing too if had been the Guard!
 

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Reminds me of the famous "Punch" cartoon from 1869:-
The caption of the cartoon reads:

Railway Porter (to Old Lady travelling with a Menagerie of Pets). “‘STATION MASTER SAY, MUM, AS CATS IS ‘DOGS,’ AND RABBITS IS ‘DOGS,’ AND SO’S PARROTS; BUT THIS ‘ERE ‘TORTIS’ IS A INSECT, SO THERE AIN’T NO CHARGE FOR IT!” [Punch, 1869, Vol. 57, p. 96]


You have been around for along time.. How do you manage it :lol:
 

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Only train i've taken my dog on was on the SVR between Hampton loade & Highley. Went to a compartment so he didn't bug anyone, just laid on the floor and behaved, didn't attempt to go on the seats at all.


On a different note. Saw two people with animials on trains on monday. One i spotted after getting on at Armadale to Waverly, a woman had a lovely 8 week old long haired kitten, that was looking all around (they got off at Haymarket)

The on the 12:51 VWC B'ham train a woman had a dog with her that was quite all the way down till she got off at Crewe just laided their in the footwell asleep.

For other dog owners some are incredibly lazy, for not cleaning up, or a big pet hate to me not using a lead :/

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Last week on the Caledonian Sleeper there was a woman the a dog in the seated carriage, who was asked to leave as the dog could afect athsma sufferers etc. I don't think she was thrown off, I think they were moved to the lounge car, which was probably empty anyway as we were past Edinburgh, so must have been after 1.00.
 

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I took my dog on the train once. He was extremely obedient, but he was terrified of the 144 and spent most of his time hiding under my legs in the bicycle area (under the folding seats). It's amazing how many people stopped to make a fuss of him, considering he was a big (quite smelly) old Labrador! The only person he did possibly annoy was the guard, who almost tripped over him at the station we boarded at. I waited by the guard's local door, and as the guard stepped out, the dog tried to board through his legs. I think he saw the funny side, and I did apologise.

Don't know about the being terrified on them things ???

Why are angry looking dogs have angry looking owners ??
Male, under 30, tracksuit, can of larger/cider....see a lot of these chappies moving about by local rail.
 

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Going back about 15 or 20 years, but does anyone else remember the late middle aged man who would travel regularly between Reading / Didcot / Oxford with a large parrot on his shoulder?
 

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When I were a wee nipper we used to take our dog onto the train and she would just lie down under the seat and go to sleep. Mind you, she wasn't quite so keen on trains after we came back late one night along the Breckland line sat behind the drivers cab in a Cl101 and ran over a fog signal.

Reminds me of the famous "Punch" cartoon from 1869.

I was always lead to believe that the punchline to that related to a story relating to one Frank Buckland.

It would be acme of stupidity to say that the Victorians were a weird bunch, and few could claim to be weirder than Frank Buckland. He was the son of William Buckland, the Dean of Westminster and the man who made geology and palaeontology into respectable academic subjects and was the first person to describe a dinosaur twenty years before the word had even been coined. The family home during young Frank's childhood was part museum and part wildlife park, with all manner of creatures living sharing the house with the Buckland family.

Hardly surprisingly, Buckland inherited his father's interest in the natural world and his habit of introducing unsuitable animals into his living quarters continued while he studied at Oxford. These included snakes, marmots, a jackal, an eagle and a bear that would make appearances at college drinks parties wearing a scholar's cap and gown.

One other passion that he inherited from his father was zoophagy; that is the eating of unusual animals. William Buckland claimed to have eaten his way through the entire animal kingdom from mouse to bison, and it was claimed that he had even eaten the preserved heart of French King Louis XIV stating "I have eaten many stange things, but I have never eaten the heart of a king before" prior to gobbling it up before anyone could stop him. Hedgehog, rat, puppy, potted ostrich, tortoise and pickled horse tongue all made regular appearances on the menu. William's palate was only ever defeated twice, by boiled mole and a ragout of bluebottles. However, Frank took things even further by attempting rhino pies, fried earwigs, stewed porpoise head and chops from a panther buried for several days.

In spite of his great appetite, Frank was still a naturalist at heart and little short of a walking zoo himself. He always had some animal or other secreted in a pocket about his person. Which brings us to his brush with railway officialdom.

On one occasion while travelling through Southampton docks he was stopped and fined 5 shillings for attempting to smuggle a monkey aboard a train. The clerk had insisted on treating it as a dog and issuing it with a dog ticket. Incensed, Buckland produced a tortoise from his pocket and demanded "Perhaps you'll call that a dog too?", to which the clerk replied "No, sir. We make no charge for that. That, sir, is an insect".

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April the first nineteen seventy something at Paddington. Telex clatters off requesting that the whatever from Bristol T.M. to Paddington be met as there were frogs hopping/crawling around the guard's compartment (HST pre TGS).
How we laughed and sniggered at the joke. April the first ho ho ho! Train arrived and the station fitter called up the control point on his radio. There was a company in Bath who used to remit frogs for medical research and...the cardboard box that this lot were in was a bit too damp enabling the little croakers to hop off and away on a railway adventure.

Same station around the same time. Television animal personality Johnny Morris was trotting across the lawn accompanied by a woman with a babe in arms, all wrapped up in a shawl. Ticket barrier man smiles and looks down at the baby, to be met by a very hairy pair of arms. It was a baby chimpanzee on it's way to Bristol zoo.
 

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trentside I assume your lab, (a breed i have great fondness for after nearly 4 years lodging with an old mate and his one) woant be joining the paser preservation society? Lovley story re the guard, wish i'd been there.

I once did carlisle - keighley with 3 new born kittens and there owner in the wheelchair bay in front of me. Around dent 1 decided it wanted to stretch its legs and came padding up the isle and sat down on my foot. It got plenty of fuss from me! Best memory of xmas 08/9, seeing as I was dumped on boxingday and couldnt wate for the trains to start running again.
Thought you were asking about the usual friday and saturday night travellers.

or any punter using an xc voyager to/from scotland, better known to most as a cattle pen on rails.

 
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chris89, I agree that dogs shouldn't be off the lead, except those that have been trained very well.

I know, when ever i take my dog for a walk, he is a large gun dog and gets very over excited, we never let him of the lead, but others think it is fine. Mostly are Labador & Terrier owners :/

Cats are very nosey animals overal, and just love the attention. I wonder what sort of fuss mine would get if i took her on the train (An Scottish Fold)
 

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well wouldnt you if your first experience of rail travel was on london midland? Or perhaps your super sensible canine companion doesnt like ann's station announcements :) good doggy :)
Took the dog on a 350 once, she just sat and sulked!



 

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I'm meant to charge for dogs, meant being the important word. In practice, I've been taught by the Guards I've worked with that no-one really charges for dogs (except the main terminus because the manager is always in the Ticket Office!)
 

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trentside I assume your lab, (a breed i have great fondness for after nearly 4 years lodging with an old mate and his one) woant be joining the paser preservation society? Lovley story re the guard, wish i'd been there.

No, sadly I don't think he would - had he still been with us.

You're right, they're a fantastic breed. Obedient and naturally intelligent - though they'll run rings around you if you let them. Greedy too, if you don't watch their diet :)
 
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