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Andy Byford to leave TfL later this year

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Those of us who heard all the stuff about needing to keep services going, and staff employed and fully paid, for "key workers" (not even furloughed as the rest of the world was), where in fact they were running as empty stock for many months and the key workers had quite notably moved on, if they hadn't before, to going by car (including to our office car park which was loaned to the adjacent hospital for extra staff parking) can recognise the real world.

This is a figment of your imagination. As someone who was commuting throughout the pandemic I can assure you the tube was not “running as empty stock for many months”.

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Key workers didn't just work in hospitals.

Quite right. They could be found in train cabs, too :).
 
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This is a figment of your imagination. As someone who was commuting throughout the pandemic I can assure you the tube was not “running as empty stock for many months”.
So why was income lass than 10% of normal for months?
 

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The guy had a bit of a 'reputation' at Southern. I have no direct proof if it was unfounded or not
 

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This was the same reason that Tim O’Toole gave for leaving, to go to US for family reasons. Though returned quickly to UK
Shudders… a name which didn’t do First Groups dwindling reputation any good. Not really sure what Blockhead saw in O’Toole but it didn’t end well.
 
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The first definition of that word is fitting, though perhaps not what you meant.

Grayling had a similar relationship with London as Shapps, he notably wrote a letter saying London can't have nice things because Labour sometimes runs it. He wrote that to Johnson. I don't think Khan can be blamed for a relationship set in its ways before he arrived.
This.

The same voices that constantly harp on about how much they can't stand "the Mayor" never seem to acknowledge that his Predecessor was fine with the utterly corrupt way Grayling (not his first brown envelope either) treated TfL/London during his extended photo-op of an administration and did much to set up the current awful situation.

It's got to the point where the "they're both as bad as each other" tendency are simply there to provide disingenuous cover for the fact a Tory Govt DO treat London and other Metropolitan Authorities differently because they are Opposition held.

And that comment about "recognising the real world" - pure comedy gold.

The Government mandated that TfL had to keep running as full a service as if things were normal - at a time when Bus Drivers were dying at a horribly disproportionate rate to the rest of us - and that boarding via the exit door on buses meant revenue was further sacrificed to try and take the edge off that.

TfL were ordered to keep going by their Paymaster. Not the Mayor. Hence massive deficit ahoy.

Anyone that wants to attribute this and an awful lot of other facts-of-life to willy waving by "the Mayor" should come with a paid-sponsorship warning.
 

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LA are actually doing ok in building, largely for the '28 Games but a good amount coming online between now and then. They are these days quite progressive in vision - it's just super expensive, HUGE, and where to begin to execute.

SF / Bay might be interesting. Needs agency consolidation, Caltrain is going electric (and sharing lines with HSR eventually) - and other regional things going on, including the Muni extension. Such a slow development, nimby culture there though.

I would love him to come back to NYC, as a f-you to Cuomo. They're still rolling out his speed tracker changes... But NJT could use him too!
We'd welcome him here in Boston where the MBTA management has been a disaster for years, resulting in a sharply worded critical report from the Federal Transport Administration earlier this year ordering prompt remediation of many safety issues on the subway.

There are of course politics at play here as well, but the current Governor is not running for re-election in November and his likely successor has pledged to overhaul the MBTA leadership.
 

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The first definition of that word is fitting, though perhaps not what you meant.

Grayling had a similar relationship with London as Shapps, he notably wrote a letter saying London can't have nice things because Labour sometimes runs it. He wrote that to Johnson. I don't think Khan can be blamed for a relationship set in its ways before he arrived.

This.

The same voices that constantly harp on about how much they can't stand "the Mayor" never seem to acknowledge that his Predecessor was fine with the utterly corrupt way Grayling (not his first brown envelope either) treated TfL/London during his extended photo-op of an administration and did much to set up the current awful situation.

It's got to the point where the "they're both as bad as each other" tendency are simply there to provide disingenuous cover for the fact a Tory Govt DO treat London and other Metropolitan Authorities differently because they are Opposition held.

And that comment about "recognising the real world" - pure comedy gold.

The Government mandated that TfL had to keep running as full a service as if things were normal - at a time when Bus Drivers were dying at a horribly disproportionate rate to the rest of us - and that boarding via the exit door on buses meant revenue was further sacrificed to try and take the edge off that.

TfL were ordered to keep going by their Paymaster. Not the Mayor. Hence massive deficit ahoy.

Anyone that wants to attribute this and an awful lot of other facts-of-life to willy waving by "the Mayor" should come with a paid-sponsorship warning.

Wholeheartedly agreed. It was Grayling who said that TfL shouldn't get control of Southern Metro because they run through Epsom, outside of Greater London... ignoring the fact that London Underground already has stations outside of Greater London - and London Overground took over stations outside of London (Lea Valley lines) under a Tory Mayor! This government has never hidden its contempt of London for voting "the wrong way" - also shown by them changing the voter system to reduce the minority parties representation, meaning that the Conservatives will see a boost in votes/seats for GLA and mayor elections, as otherwise any non-Labour voters will otherwise waste their votes due to FPTP if they don't vote Tory.

Anyway, back on topic, sad to see Andy go. Interested to see where he ends up next in the US. New York MTA still seems to be a mess but doubt after his experiences at the MTA that he'll be willing to return there.
 
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It's strange that transport authorities always get wound up in political football when really politics should be kept out of it.
 

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It's strange that transport authorities always get wound up in political football when really politics should be kept out of it.
Why shouldn’t transport authorities be governed by the people through their elected representatives, like any other publicly funded service?
 

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It's strange that transport authorities always get wound up in political football when really politics should be kept out of it.

Although I don’t think transport authorities are immune here; ask teachers, nurses and doctors and they’d probably say the same.

Anything that has a significant money attached to it will have an element of politics as there is a desire to make their mark and at a higher level, professionals in the sector have to manage this carefully, whilst also being able to get on with their jobs.

It doesn’t help that generally the UK is hopeless at long term infrastructure planning.
 

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Why shouldn’t transport authorities be governed by the people through their elected representatives, like any other publicly funded service?
Politicians have a short life cycle - they need to win the next election to stay in power which is typically a maximum of 4 or 5 years away. Transport infrastructure projects, which cost many millions and billions take far longer than this timescale to plan and build and are hugely disruptive and often initially unpopular in the short term. The two don't go together at all well.
 

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It's strange that transport authorities always get wound up in political football when really politics should be kept out of it.
Transport authorities spend a lot, so this is partially justified. Transport authorities typically belong to urban areas that vote Labour, so the last 12 years have had issues pop up where a political battle is needed. I expect West Midlands to have fewer issues, and that before 2010 had less of this political football drama.
 

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We'd welcome him here in Boston where the MBTA management has been a disaster for years, resulting in a sharply worded critical report from the Federal Transport Administration earlier this year ordering prompt remediation of many safety issues on the subway.

There are of course politics at play here as well, but the current Governor is not running for re-election in November and his likely successor has pledged to overhaul the MBTA leadership.
I had read the report and it sounds like if they need someone like Andy Byford to sort out the MBTA and the timing is pretty good for him given he's leaving London and TfL in late October. IIRC He was hired by TfL three months after he left the MTA in NY so if he's interested then I would say the timescale will be similar.
 

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Indeed, and this is getting backs up right across all such sectors.

Heroes one moment, then dirt on the shoe the next.
Hahaha, well that's one advantage of working for the JLP I can say. A pay raise and cost of living payment as a reward...
 
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