I'm sure that an HST could easily do a 170's diagram, provided that both types of train take up the same amount of space in signal block terms. It'd simply be a matter for AXC to arrange a brief swap with EMT for one of their spare HSTs, I think.
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whereas with an HST, you're right - it'd be a pain
The biggest passenger headache for such a setup though would be the fact that 170's - Unlike 15x's and similar units - Don't have interconnecting passages between units...And if everyone decided to pile onto the nearest unit to them when boarding, ye'd wind up with one unit packed to the rafters with sardines, whereas the other two units would end up carrying about 15 passengers between them!that's one of the advantages of units, couple 3 170s together, take one off at Cambridge, run it in to a short platform
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The biggest passenger headache for such a setup though would be the fact that 170's - Unlike 15x's and similar units - Don't have interconnecting passages between units...And if everyone decided to pile onto the nearest unit to them when boarding, ye'd wind up with one unit packed to the rafters with sardines, whereas the other two units would end up carrying about 15 passengers between them!
If I was trying that approach to organising a "shrinkable" service, I'd consider doing it on 15x combinations...But 14x/16x/17x trains? No way...
What were their names? I'd love to hear more on this. Sounds like they did things the wrong way, rather than the Wright way.
[Death tries to imagine the fun and games of trying to cram 50,000 p***ed-up Chelsea supporters into a Class 170 for the three hour journey to an away game at Old Trafford...Fun, eh?]however it can guarantee you can keep the two rival teams away from each other
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And before I forget: Has anyone else ever had the pleasure of seeing a chav unwittingly urinate onto an SR third rail?
Isn't Merseyrail good enough for you?an SR third rail?
I don't really know about that happening, but the chav that I referred to above was damn lucky - Either he didn't hit the rail in question with a continuous stream, or he was well isolated from ground and thus didn't form a complete circuit. He got a shock of a different kind when I wandered over afterwards and told him what that rail is there for, though!
hock:OK ok, I was tired when I made that post and forgot that there are some TRE'd lines further North. Whenever I think of electrified lines in the decent end of our realm though, OHLE keeps coming to mind... :?Isn't Merseyrail good enough for you?
I don't really know about that happening, but the chav that I referred to above was damn lucky - Either he didn't hit the rail in question with a continuous stream, or he was well isolated from ground and thus didn't form a complete circuit. He got a shock of a different kind when I wandered over afterwards and told him what that rail is there for, though!
OK ok, I was tired when I made that post and forgot that there are some TRE'd lines further North. Whenever I think of electrified lines in the decent end of our realm though, OHLE keeps coming to mind... :?
Given that SR third rails carry current running into the hundreds/thousands of amperes, wouldn't that kind of current blow an overhead line like a piece of seriously under-rated fuse wire?to confuse you further, we have the same voltage of 3rd rail (750V DC obviously) on OHLE euipment for NET trams
hock:I think trams use a lot less power than Electrostars, Desiros and the like!Given that SR third rails carry current running into the hundreds/thousands of amperes, wouldn't that kind of current blow an overhead line like a piece of seriously under-rated fuse wire?
(Or do ye guys use a much lower current to power thy rolling stock up there? 8))
Given that SR third rails carry current running into the hundreds/thousands of amperes, wouldn't that kind of current blow an overhead line like a piece of seriously under-rated fuse wire?
(Or do ye guys use a much lower current to power thy rolling stock up there? 8))
As a Customer Service Officer at a well-known London terminus, I see and hear stupid or amusing things just about every day.
But the best one I've seen was as a passenger.
I was waiting on the Circle Line platforms at Paddington, when a Hammersmith train came in, so I stepped back to let those passengers on. A guy came charging down the stairs, across the platform and jumped on just as the doors were closing.
Unfortunately, the doors closed and trapped his shoe. Not realising the doors would re-open, he tried to pull his foot free but only succeeded in pulling his foot out of his shoe. At that point, the doors opened, releasing his now empty shoe, which then fell out of the train, bounced on the platform and fell under the train
The doors closed, the train pulled away, the guy is stuck on the train with one shoe...
reminds me of the time I saw a guy at Tower Hill dash on to a D78 stock train and to preven the door closing he stook his right arm (the one with his briefcase in his hand) and didn't realise the force of the door, and then ended up dropping his briefcase inside the train and it pulled off! Luckily, some guy who he knew kept hold of it for him
reminds me of the time I saw a guy at Tower Hill dash on to a D78 stock train and to preven the door closing he stook his right arm (the one with his briefcase in his hand) and didn't realise the force of the door, and then ended up dropping his briefcase inside the train and it pulled off! Luckily, some guy who he knew kept hold of it for him
Well, most people and their belongings tend to get onto trains via the doors :-PSo that's how these secret government documents get onto trains then it's the doors.
Not so much unusual designs of trains down here, aside from the fact that OHLE isn't really found anywhere south of London...Well, most people and their belongings tend to get onto trains via the doors :-P
Unless you have some unusual trains down south that I've never come across, of course
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Not so much unusual designs of trains down here, aside from the fact that OHLE isn't really found anywhere south of London...
...Although with the overcrowding that we get on SWT services into London first thing in the morning, I wouldn't be at all surprised if passengers started using the pantograph "cut-out" on top of 444s and 450s to give themselves enough space to fart!
Aye, I believe that is correct...And it's a true pity IMO.
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)Aye, I believe that is correct...And it's a true pity IMO.
If we had some decent OHLE coverage down here - Or the owners of OHLE'd rolling stock would have the decency to fit TRE transformers/shoes to their vehicles
