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Good evening,

I’m looking at doing an ALR next summer and would like to check how far in advance you can book one at a ticket office or even if you still can!

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You can buy one at my local station, I did so a couple of months ago. I'm not aware of any advantage to buying one before the first day of use, other than convienience.
 

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There’s no point in purchasing an ALR in advance of travel, unless you become aware of a price rise and want to beat it.

You can obtain seat reservations and sleeper berth reservations without the ALR.
 

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There’s no point in purchasing an ALR in advance of travel, unless you become aware of a price rise and want to beat it.

You can obtain seat reservations and sleeper berth reservations without the ALR.
Do the prices usually rise in March?
 

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I've done a few and only booked seats the day or so before for very few trains, even then we've grabbed a table instead mostly
 

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I was under the impression that had changed to 12 months
There's nothing on iKB about a restriction on purchasing Rover tickets and Ranger tickets in advance either.

There is a restriction for Season Tickets, though I'm aware that not all TOCs enforce it.
 

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There's nothing on iKB about a restriction on purchasing Rover tickets and Ranger tickets in advance either.

There is a restriction for Season Tickets, though I'm aware that not all TOCs enforce it.

The information on iKB is under Fares Retailing Information. It is 12 months for Rovers and Rangers.
 

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No point in buying before the day of travel unless you like giving several hundred quid to the train company to earn them interest.
 

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Well it might be worth buying a day or two before travel just in case the ticket office is shut or doesn't know how to sell a rover, which would give you time to make alternative arrangements. But I agree that there's no need to buy significantly in advance.
 

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Well it might be worth buying a day or two before travel just in case the ticket office is shut or doesn't know how to sell a rover, which would give you time to make alternative arrangements. But I agree that there's no need to buy significantly in advance.

An All Line Rover sale will make a commission earning guard’s day.
 

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An All Line Rover sale will make a commission earning guard’s day.
I don't get why some people are so keen that a guard can earn commision on their purchase. It might make their day but it's no benefit to the purchaser.
 
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The information on iKB is under Fares Retailing Information. It is 12 months for Rovers and Rangers.
It is possible that there is conflicting information, as the entry for 7 and 14 day All-Line products has the 3 / 5 day requirement stated on the National Rail site.

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An All Line Rover sale will make a commission earning guard’s day.
A couple of years ago, I bought a 14-day ALR 1st class ticket from a Northern Guard just so they could have the 5% commision. Sadly, the thermal printed ticket lost its ink after about 4 or 5 days. Thankfully, I had made a scanned copy on photo paper, which was accepted everywhere.
When I bought one in November this year, I got it from the Bolton ticket office on a more resilient card ticket. I would love to get the next one from a guard, if only the tickets were more robust.
 

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A couple of years ago, I bought a 14-day ALR 1st class ticket from a Northern Guard just so they could have the 5% commision. Sadly, the thermal printed ticket lost its ink after about 4 or 5 days. Thankfully, I had made a scanned copy on photo paper, which was accepted everywhere.
When I bought one in November this year, I got it from the Bolton ticket office on a more resilient card ticket. I would love to get the next one from a guard, if only the tickets were more robust.

I’d suggest a thermal print can’t lose its ink but I get your drift. Thermal printing comes with a risk of fading regardless of where it’s come from. I’ve seen many a paper roll ticket survive in the wild for more than two weeks.
 

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I’d suggest a thermal print can’t lose its ink but I get your drift. Thermal printing comes with a risk of fading regardless of where it’s come from. I’ve seen many a paper roll ticket survive in the wild for more than two weeks.
I think it depends very much upon where you store the ticket. A few years ago I was using a 7 day regional rover which had been issued in paper roll format. I folded it and kept it in one of the National Rail blue plastic wallets. it was readable through the plastic without having to remove it. Towards the end of the week I did remove it from the wallet and lots of the print came off the ticket as I removed it and was stuck to the clear plastic of the wallet. It had been during very warm weather and had been in my pocket and I think this happened due to the humidity.
 
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The young lady (Northern Guard) who sold me the ticket folded my ticket and put it into a plastic folder, just showing the Aztec code, saying it should not need to be removed. It was removed a few times to be read, and a GWR Guard even scribbled across it in ink, why?
 

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I don't get why some people are so keen that a guard can earn commision on their purchase. It might make their day but it's no benefit to the purchaser.
There’s no detriment to the purchaser either (if they’re happy with the type of ticket stock it will be printed on) so why not help a member of rail staff instead of just their employer?
The young lady (Northern Guard) who sold me the ticket folded my ticket and put it into a plastic folder, just showing the Aztec code, saying it should not need to be removed. It was removed a few times to be read, and a GWR Guard even scribbled across it in ink, why?
I can understand some perhaps wanting to see more of the ticket, as for scribbling on it that’s just incompetence or a significant lack of concentration at best.

Apart from a ticket office not being open before an intended early departure.
There are several reasons you might want to do it a day or 2 before in reality. My local station is unstaffed, my nearest station with a ticket office is potentially in the wrong direction for where I’d start a journey on an ALR and, from experience would take close to the connection time to queue and issue one anyway. I also tend to try and buy them with any saved up Rail Travel Vouchers I’ve got which adds further complication (for an alarming number of ticket office staff). It took over half an hour to issue my last ALR which included 5 RTV and the balance on a card, this included 2 phone calls.


I see no reason to do it weeks and weeks in advance (I guess if you had RTV expiring or similar that might help).
 

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I purchased the ALR I'm using right now two days in advance. This was because I was passing the ticket office on the way home on Friday and saw that it was open with someone I felt would issue it without having to get help.
 

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There’s no detriment to the purchaser either (if they’re happy with the type of ticket stock it will be printed on) so why not help a member of rail staff instead of just their employer?
So you’re happy to give the guard commission at the same time as taking work (and job security) away from the more poorly paid ticket office staff?
 

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So you’re happy to give the guard commission at the same time as taking work (and job security) away from the more poorly paid ticket office staff?

One ticket sale really isn’t the make or break here. Let’s put this debate to bed and realise that we’re not likely to find an agreement.
 
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