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I’m contemplating a trip to Switzerland, probably in the winter, to see some of the mountain railways. I’ve just started researching it and wondered if there are common itineraries to save me reinventing the wheel.

I’m considering the Bernina Express, the Glacier Express and Jungfraujoch. I will probably have my daughter, who will be around 2 by next winter, and my parents who are in their 70s but perfectly mobile.

We’d probably get the train out from the UK, but I’m comfortable planning that part of the trip.

Any advice on well located and reasonably priced (I realise Switzerland isn’t cheap!) apartments or hotels would also be appreciated.

I know seat61.com will be invaluable, but I’m looking for insight into how best to link the different elements together…

Thanks in anticipation
 
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If you don't mind changing trains one or twice you can do most of these mountain routes on regular trains rather than the expensive express trains. I don't have experience in the winter season but in september I had no trouble finding nice window seats on these mountain lines without having to reserve seats.
 

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I’m contemplating a trip to Switzerland, probably in the winter to see some of the mountain railways. I’ve just started researching it and wondered if there are common itineraries to save me reinventing the wheel. I’m considering the Bernina Express, the Glacier Express and Jungfraujoch. I will probably have my daughter who will be around 2 by next winter and my parents who are in their 70s but perfectly mobile. We’d probably get the train out from the UK but I’m comfortable planning that part of the trip. Any advice on well located and reasonably priced (I realise Switzerland isn’t cheap!) apartments or hotels would also be appreciated. I know seat61.com will be invaluable but I’m looking for insight into how best to link the different elements together…

Thanks in anticipatin
Be aware that the Jungfraujoch railway costs a staggering amount of money and it is not valid with Interrail. I would recommend foregoing that entirely, and just buying an Interrail global pass that will cover your travel within the UK, UK to Switzerland, and also most of the railways within Switzerland.

For hotels in the Geneva area, I would recommend going over into France (e.g. Annemasse) where hotels will be a lot cheaper. Similar for France/Germany near Basel being cheaper and Konstanz. Within Switzerland, Chur is very reasonably priced (I managed to bag a hotel for £50), convenient for the Bernina/Glacier routes and only about 60-90 mins from Zurich. That might also be a convenient staging point for you as you could do the Glacier Express (or local trains in that direction) one day, then the Bernina the next.
 

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I don't have experience in the winter season but in september I had no trouble finding nice window seats on these mountain lines without having to reserve seats.
Even in peak summer holidays I never had any issue finding nice window seats. Those mountain railways seem very capable of providing capacity matching seasonal demand.

Similar for France/Germany near Basel being cheaper and Konstanz.
The German hotel prices have gone up quote a bit in recent years, but Basel itself is quite reasonably priced for within Switzerland.
Actually when taking into account the tram costs from Weil am Rhein to Basel, the hotels in Basel itself were almost the same price.
Travelling on Interrail a hotel in France near a train station could however be worthwhile, from German hotels just across the border its however less practical to enter Switzerland by train.
 

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Unless you really 'must' go to the Jungfraujoch I'd give it a miss. It's not a particularly good viewpoint; the Schilthorn is better. I'd settle for a trip to Kleine Schidegg for the impressive view of the Eiger Nordwand. Neither Interrail or the Berner Oberland Pass are valid beyond Wengen or Grindelwald but there's a 25% discount with both passes.
 

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Also bear in mind the relatively short hours of daylight in winter. Worth considering, if possible, travelling a little later when the days are longer. In high alpine regions the snow sticks around right through spring which is also when the crowds tend to be smaller.
 

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I'd also ask whether doing this trip with a 2 year old is going to be good for any of you. I'd be especially cautious about the trip up to the Jungfraujoch, because of the long ride in tunnel and the altitude.
 

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I think the short answer is that personally I wouldn't. I'd perhaps go in summer or autumn when you'll still see snow on the tops and could make a trip up something to be in it if that's appealing, and/or stick to one area and get a regional pass that includes cable cars funiculars etc. There are also several areas that include this sort of thing if you stay more than a night or two.
 

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In my opinion the Gornergrat is a much more interesting ride than the Jungfrau as 90% of that is in a tunnel.

The ride from Lauterbrunnen to Grindelwald via Kleine Scheidegg is pretty spectacular.

If you want to save a few quid rather than using the expresses stick to the local trains, the windows open for photos (although probably not the most social thing to do in winter) and the changes are pretty easy.
 

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Agree with everything above: check daylight in winter, not worth paying for panoramic coaches nor Jungraujoch (Schynigge Platte is much better for views but closed in winter, or Schilthorn or Titlis to see main ridge).

To avoid spending a week looking at grey fog through train windows I'd suggest not a fixed itinerary but a set of plans then adapt to the weather forecast when you're there. Weather in the mountains can be different from the flat lands and the south side of the Alps can be different again on any day. It can be clear at low level with 1000m cloud so you don't see much mountain, or fog belt over flat northern switzerland and beautifully clear higher up on any day.

Do you want specific mountain railways or good views including cable cars? The only mountain summit included in Interrail that I can think of is Col de Bretaye, the rest are 25% or 50% or no discount. Some areas have multi-day passes which are cheaper if you are doing a lot: Jungfrau region pass, walking not skiing version, Tellpass covers pretty well all the mountain railways, cable cars, train, bus and lake steamers north-east of there up to Lake Luzern and beyond if you want to do Pilatus, both Rigi railways, Stanserhorn, Titlis, the Stoos giggle funicular and so on.

To be clear on Panorama Express versus ordinary trains, PE is applied to different things on different routes. Bernina: just ride in the unit hauling the panoramic coaches, views are pretty much as good and you still get some multi-language commentary. Glacier Express don't bother with the dedicated PE trains. On 'Golden Pass route' Montreux-Spiez-Interlaken the PE trains have no supplement unless you want the higher floor coach. Gotthard Panorama Express (if running in winter) is compulsory supplement.

Zürich-Innsbruck-Graz Transalpin in the 1st class Panoramawagen is one way to see a lot of the alps in comfort if the weather is bad higher up. Adapt that to daylight though.

I'm 70 so comfortable seat in a train with a toilet is always good even if you fall asleep on a long day. 2 year old I guess is another matter.

I'd have a plan for really bad sightseeing weather in hand for winter, maybe head down into Italy as a fallback.
 

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Similar for France/Germany near Basel being cheaper and Konstanz.
Can attest to this. Paid around 65 Euro/£55 for a twin room for me and a friend who were using an Interrail to travel from the UK to Liechtenstein. We stayed at B&B Hotel Konstanz, which is about 15 mins walk from one of the suburban stations, and about 25 mins from the main station (although there is a reasonable frequent bus from the main station stopping a stone's throw from the hotel).
There is a bus ticket for the Konstanz area included in your hotel reservation too, which is useful.
 

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Random cheaper hotel thoughts:
Geneva try Annemasse (Novotel next to station, Ibis x2 are on tram route which goes to Eaux-Vives but not Annemasse station).
Luzern has a Holiday Inn Express very close to Kriens Mattenhof station with a very frequent service to the centre.
Zürich hotels towards but not at the airport are a bit cheaper and on the tram route airport-Glattbrugg-Oerlikon, an Ibis Budget by Unterried tram stop and several other hotels around Glattpark.
South-west of Zürich just off the end of the platform at Affoltern am Albis there is a Prize (Radisson's cheap brand).
 

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Currently staying at Basel Jugendherberge (hostel) in a very pleasant location near the river. Quite a few young kids with parents but most people are in the age range 35-70. Your reservation includes trams from station and you have a transport pass for your stay and half price attractions. I think there's an excellent water park/ spa a couple of miles east if the weather was bad.

I know you asked about Switzerland but I've just come from Garmisch-Partenkirchen in the Bavarian Alps where I've never been to before. Very impressive. Similar to Swiss levels of quality and transport. The Jugendherberge moun10 is new and of very high quality. It's 2 mins from the station with hourly trains to Munich and breakfast was excellent. It was very quiet as the main ski season has ended though there were lots still getting on to the slopes. Easy access to Zugspitze, the highest point in Germany by rack rail or cable car from Garmisch-Partenkirchen. Oh, and the rooftop sauna and relaxation area beats most hotels in terms of space, cleanliness and size. That's a first for me in a hostel.

Train travel 1st class from G-P via Munich to Basel was surprisingly cheap as a SuperSparpreis booked a few weeks ahead.

As others have said maybe travelling in March or before winter sets in might still give the benefit of mountains covered in snow, but places will be quieter.
 

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I’m contemplating a trip to Switzerland, probably in the winter to see some of the mountain railways. I’ve just started researching it and wondered if there are common itineraries to save me reinventing the wheel. I’m considering the Bernina Express, the Glacier Express and Jungfraujoch. I will probably have my daughter who will be around 2 by next winter and my parents who are in their 70s but perfectly mobile. We’d probably get the train out from the UK but I’m comfortable planning that part of the trip. Any advice on well located and reasonably priced (I realise Switzerland isn’t cheap!) apartments or hotels would also be appreciated. I know seat61.com will be invaluable but I’m looking for insight into how best to link the different elements together…

Thanks in anticipation
I wouldn’t advise doing the Bernina Express or Glacier Express in the panoramic coaches - just do the service trains instead. The service trains are very comfortable - I am wholly unconvinced the supplements are worth it.
 

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Be aware that the Jungfraujoch railway costs a staggering amount of money and it is not valid with Interrail. I would recommend foregoing that entirely, and just buying an Interrail global pass that will cover your travel within the UK, UK to Switzerland, and also most of the railways within Switzerland.

For hotels in the Geneva area, I would recommend going over into France (e.g. Annemasse) where hotels will be a lot cheaper. Similar for France/Germany near Basel being cheaper and Konstanz. Within Switzerland, Chur is very reasonably priced (I managed to bag a hotel for £50), convenient for the Bernina/Glacier routes and only about 60-90 mins from Zurich. That might also be a convenient staging point for you as you could do the Glacier Express (or local trains in that direction) one day, then the Bernina the next.
It’s £92 when you book the Jungfrau railway in advance and have the half fare card (a must for Swiss rail travel). For the experience I would recommend it. You can also get a 24 hour network day ticket for 72CHF which works out cheaper than an Olten/Zurich/wherever you start from - Interlaken return. You change there for the Jungfrau railway to Lauterbrunnen (for the Eiger express gondola) to Grindelwald.

+1 regarding advice to use local services instead of the Glacier and Bernina, they're just tourist traps with nice restaurant services onboard.
Unless you really 'must' go to the Jungfraujoch I'd give it a miss. It's not a particularly good viewpoint; the Schilthorn is better. I'd settle for a trip to Kleine Schidegg for the impressive view of the Eiger Nordwand. Neither Interrail or the Berner Oberland Pass are valid beyond Wengen or Grindelwald but there's a 25% discount with both passes.
The Sphinx observatory view is spectacular and only the final 20 mins from Kleine Schidegg to the Jungfraujoch is in a tunnel, the rest of it is incredible by mountain railway or gondola as long as you have a clear view. I'd recommend it for sure. Ascending 3500m is a special experience and one you will remember and on the way down you get a little square of Lindt from the on train crew for your custom.
 
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Sometimes I've found Mulhouse in France useful to stay at, there's a pretty frequent train service there from Basel (some of which are operated with the superb and very comfortable Corail coaches). The B&B hotel there is often very affordable, there are some Ibis and Ibis Budget hotels too.

Milan is not very far from the border either with frequent local trains from Lugano and Domodossola (don't take the EC trains with overpriced seat reservations). Take a ride on one of their many historic trams while you're at it.

I've also had good deals in Locarno, with free passes covering the Ticino region public transport included as well. Just don't make the same mistake I made thinking it wasn't that far from Brig but not considering the mountain range inbetween which made for a much later arrival than expected.
 

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Actually when taking into account the tram costs from Weil am Rhein to Basel, the hotels in Basel itself were almost the same price.
Travelling on Interrail a hotel in France near a train station could however be worthwhile, from German hotels just across the border its however less practical to enter Switzerland by train.
The BLT tram line to St Louis Grenze is included in Interrail and there are a few hotels just across the border.
 

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There is a handy list at the bottom of this page which has a list of discounts you get from the tourist tax. It says 2024 but I can't imagine much has changed.
 

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"Don't bother with the panoramic coaches on the Glacier/Bernina routes, just get regular services" is a popular opinion in this community but I'm going to push back on it a bit, having paid the money to do both of these just last week.

It depends what you're looking for of course. If it's purely about the views then yes, you can get them on a regular local train. But there's a sense of occasion on the Bernina/Glacier Express that they can't match. The panoramic windows, even if they're not always strickly necessary, make it feel different to your average train. The announcements describing the scenery and history as you go along are informative and bring everyone together. Being served a full meal on a train with incredible views outside is an experience in itself, and actually by Swiss standards is reasonably priced (but skipping this can be a way of cutting costs if they are a concern). And generally having friendly staff around serving drinks and snacks on request, giving out free gifts and selling souvenirs, all adds to the experience of it being unlike any other train.

You say you're thinking of taking a wide family group, including a young child and older parents. I imagine this will be a fairly unique experience for them. Personally I wouldn't skimp on it and make them jump on and off trains, hauling luggage around and fighting to get good seats together in between local passengers. Go for the real deal. Sit back and relax, let the staff do their thing, and let your family enjoy the sense of occasion. It's the sort of thing you only do once - just because you *can* do it cheaper doesn't mean you necessarily should. My partner, who is far from a train nerd, absolutely loved it and was glad we spent the money on it. And with an Interrail pass it's frankly not much more than your average high speed train.

Coming from Italy, we did Tirano -> St Moritz, stayed overnight then did St Moritz -> Zermatt. Stayed in Täsch for a couple of nights rather than Zermatt to save money (Interrail is valid on the shuttle between them), and left via Geneva. I'd second the Gornergrat, bit pricey but a great experience, and convenient while you're in Zermatt. Can't speak to Jungfrau. Annemasse is indeed a good shout if you're staying in Geneva, though if you can get a good deal on a hotel in Geneva then it is worth it because the free transport card you'll get is very handy.
 

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I did a trip to Switzerland in 2002 and I travelled on a 1st class Swiss Pass. I travelled from Manchester to Chamonix on advanced tickets staying over in Paris. I then travelled round on the Swiss Rail Pass which gave up to 50% reduction on many of the Mountain Railways and Gondolas and was accepted on all the regular trains. I booked a seat on the Glacia Express and Bernina Express but as I also had to return from Italy I took an empty local train back. The Gondola in Chamonix was probably the most spectacular as it over looks Mont Blanc though the ones in Zermatt overlooking the Matterhorn which very good.
If you decide to break your trip in Chur I can highly recommend the line up to Arosa.

Be prepared for closures due to high winds especially early in the day and some times all day. I was not able to take to the Gondola from Grindlewald to Wengen for example and was very lucky to get up the Schilthorn even though there was a storm and it was closed shortly after. This has now been rebuilt along with the new Eiger Express which bypasses the railway up to from Grindlewald to Kleine Scheidegg.

The 1st Class ticket just meant I had a seat on every train which was often very busy in standard. Other highlights included the lines from Domodossola to Locarno, Locarno to Lucerne on the classic Gotthard route and the line from Interlaken to Montreux especially the last decent.

 
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I did a trip to Switzerland in 2002 and I travelled on a 1st class Swiss Pass. I travelled from Manchester to Chamonix on advanced tickets staying over in Paris. I then travelled round on the Swiss Rail Pass which gave up to 50% reduction on many of the Mountain Railways and Gondolas and was accepted on all the regular trains. I booked a seat on the Glacia Express and Bernina Express but as I also had to return from Italy I took an empty local train back. The Gondola in Chamonix was probably the most spectacular as it over looks Mont Blanc though the ones in Zermatt overlooking the Matterhorn which very good.
If you decide to break your trip in Chur I can highly recommend the line up to Arosa.

Be prepared for closures due to high winds especially early in the day and some times all day. I was not able to take to the Gondola from Grindlewald to Wengen for example and was very lucky to get up the Schilthorn even though there was a storm and it was closed shortly after. This has now been rebuilt along with the new Eiger Express which bypasses the railway up to from Grindlewald to Kleine Scheidegg.

The 1st Class ticket just meant I had a seat on every train which was often very busy in standard. Other highlights included the lines from Domodossola to Locarno, Locarno to Lucerne on the classic Gotthard route and the line from Interlaken to Montreux especially the last decent.

Indeed, I remember the Golden Pass line from Interlaken to Montreux being very nice. It ran alongside the street at one point, on the last section as it descended down. Quite a unique experience.

I also did cable cars from Grindelwald - Mannlichen - Lauterbrunnen (and it cost me 30 CHF I believe), then Interrail took me from Lauterbrunnen-Wengen-Interlaken, and also Interlaken-Grindelwald. There's about a 5 minute walk between terminals at Mannlichen and it isn't very well signposted at all especially amongst thick fog, poor visibility and white snow stretching everywhere. I had to ask for directions!

Maybe the OP could as an alternative go Interlaken-Grindelwald-Kleine Sheidegg-Lauterbrunnen-Interlaken without paying the extortionate fares for the final stretch to Jungfraujoch. I haven't done that one myself as I don't consider it to be worth it.

The next time I'm in Switzerland (August), I would like to ride the Matterhorn cable car Breuil Cervinia (IT) - Zermatt (CH). This might also be something the OP can consider also, however, it also isn't particularly cheap. But that's Switzerland for you.
 

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I'd agree with most of the above. Apart from the Montreux - Zweisimmen and Brig - Chur - Tirano I'd recommend the Gottard mountain route operated by the SOB and also the Lotschberg mountain route on the BLS, the Zentralbahn from Luzern to Interlaken, FART from Domodossola - Lugano and Voralpine Express from Luzern - St Gallen. An Interrail or Swiss Travel Pass is all of the routes mentioned without supplements. The Bernina and Glacier Expresses cost extra, great if you want the tourist experience, but the service trains are fine and you can generally get a window a seat. Seats generally line up with windows in Switzerland! Consider First Class if you a travelling a lot though.

April just after summer time starts is a good time to travel, its usually light until 8pm but there is generally still snow at higher altitudes.

Whilst hotels are cheaper acros the border (I've stayed in Mulhouse) its also a hassle and thereare some reasonable value hotels near stations (hotels generally are farly reasonable in Switzerland). As an example a room at the Ibis at Basel station is around £100 per night but they use dynamic pricing so it could be cheaper or more expensive.
 

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I'd agree with most of the above. Apart from the Montreux - Zweisimmen and Brig - Chur - Tirano I'd recommend the Gottard mountain route operated by the SOB and also the Lotschberg mountain route on the BLS, the Zentralbahn from Luzern to Interlaken, FART from Domodossola - Lugano and Voralpine Express from Luzern - St Gallen. An Interrail or Swiss Travel Pass is all of the routes mentioned without supplements. The Bernina and Glacier Expresses cost extra, great if you want the tourist experience, but the service trains are fine and you can generally get a window a seat. Seats generally line up with windows in Switzerland! Consider First Class if you a travelling a lot though.

April just after summer time starts is a good time to travel, its usually light until 8pm but there is generally still snow at higher altitudes.

Whilst hotels are cheaper acros the border (I've stayed in Mulhouse) its also a hassle and thereare some reasonable value hotels near stations (hotels generally are farly reasonable in Switzerland). As an example a room at the Ibis at Basel station is around £100 per night but they use dynamic pricing so it could be cheaper or more expensive.
Basel hostel (jugendherberge) will charge about £45 for a dorm bed including breakfast and a Basel Card for free public transport and half price museums.
 

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Bernina: just ride in the unit hauling the panoramic coaches, views are pretty much as good
… and despite being quite modern units, they still have a few windows that can be slid down quite a bit, although I guess that might be more something for summer than for winter.

In principle I can recommend the hotel at Ospizio Bernina for a mid-journey break in that area (the restaurant at the hotel, too), although maybe less so in winter, because from the station you need to walk approximately 600 m (and 60 m height difference) along a gravel road to reach the hotel. In summer that's doable even with some reasonable amount of luggage, but in winter it might more difficult or depending on the weather outright impossible. The hotel does offer a road shuttle to a neighbouring station in that case, but it's still a bit more of a hassle.

There's another hotel directly at the station in neighbouring Alp Grüm which according to a colleague who slept there instead is nice, too, but it might be a bit more pricey.

If you want to travel along the Bernina route in one direction only, the official solution is a special express coach from between Lugano and Tirano, but (at least in summer, though) I can also recommend the railway line between Milano and Tirano, which especially alongside the Lago di Como is quite scenic. There were only two caveats:
  1. FS loves do the major track works during summer, and in recent years it seems they've been regularly working on that line, too. We were lucky in that we only had to take a replacement bus on the last stretch between Sondrio and Tirano (and while it did throw off our schedule a bit, thankfully it wasn't too much), but depending on which section they're working on this year, it might be a bit more hassle. Somewhat annoyingly, there's a timetable change in June and schedules plus details of any construction works for the period after the timetable change are only published relatively late (around May or so, maybe late April), so you can't do anything except hopefully having enough of a cushion in your schedule there.
  2. We originally wanted to go from Locarno to Monza and change there for the line to Tirano, however while some trains on that line are operated using loco-hauled coaching stock with a sufficient number of carriages, others utilise single unit EMUs, and the train we wanted to catch at Monza was completely stuffed to the gills (not sure if this was just bad luck due to some event/the good weather/… or whether it's a regular occurrence on that line in summer), so we ended up backtracking all the way to Milano in order to be sure we'd be able to get on one of the following trains. Luckily we did have enough spare time in our schedule that even in combination with 1.) above we still managed to catch the last train to Ospizio Bernina (beyond that, there still would have been one or two Postauto connections as a fallback, at the price of missing out on the Bernina train ride though of course) .
I've also had good deals in Locarno, with free passes covering the Ticino region public transport included as well.
And if you're doing e.g. a day trip to Como, using the regional trains (anything else probably isn't worth it anyway on that stretch) you only need to pay a very cheap extension ticket on the Italian side from Chiasso/the border to Como.

Just don't make the same mistake I made thinking it wasn't that far from Brig but not considering the mountain range inbetween which made for a much later arrival than expected.
Though at least Locarno – Domodossola via the Centovalli Line is also quite scenic, and Domodossola is also nice for a little stopover for lunch.

the Lotschberg mountain route on the BLS
Did that, too, and had a nice experience with the guard there – the train wasn't too full and when she saw on our Interrail travel itinerary that we were going all the way to Berne the slow way (relatively speaking), she actually let us move to the first class section of the train. Not that there's a spectacular difference on those trains, but there were slightly more comfy seats and it was a nice gesture of course.

I'm not sure how it holds up in winter because we went there in summer (it seems that for those who don't go skiing, they do some sort of annual 'visit the home of Santa Claus on top of the mountain' thing each year in December, which might or might not be interesting if you're visiting with a little kid), but the Rochers-de-Naye line from Montreux was also quite nice. We did that last summer – we originally wanted to go from Brig to Zermatt and do the Gornergrat railway, but both the line beyond Visp and the Gornergrat railway itself had just been closed due to the track damage after severe weather with flooding, and luckily the line towards Montreux was open at the time (it temporarily wasn't a few days later I think due to some more flooding), so instead we went to Rochers-de-Naye.
 
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The youth hostel in Interlaken is right next to the station and offers family rooms. Most importantly the attached restaurant is very reasonably priced - in Switzerland eating out can really add up. Link here:

Personally I wouldn't go in winter if I had the choice. Prices for everything are likely to increase drastically in ski season. I would also recommend the Schynige Platte Bahn (heritage electric) and Brienz Rothorn Bahn (modern steam), both of which only run in the summer.

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In the summer the Rhatische Bahn puts yellow open carriages on some routes. This year I think that it is just on the Davos-Filisur heritage trains and on a few trains over the Bernina Pass but they have also used them on the Arosa line in the past. Certainly a better way of going through Alp Grum than in the posh coaches, though my mother might disagree!

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Whether you consider the Glacier Express supplement to be worth the extra cost is up to you, personally I enjoyed a day of extravagance between campsites.

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The Jungfraubahn is pricey so check that you've got a pass that gets a discount. Certainly as an adult I'd enjoy the experience but as a child the ice carvings weren't of much interest to me.
 

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My son who spent a year working in Switzerland tells me May is low season for hotels, and some cable cars close for maintenance before the summer season starts (usually first Saturday in June, or 1st June).

However if you're prepared to do a bit of due diligence you can do some great trips in May, the wildflowers are out, days are much longer so evening trips are a possibility.

If you have inter-rail, a good map and the inter-rail planner app can produce some great round-trip itenenaries which can include nipping into Germany, France, Italy or Austria.

Annemasse is not a great place to visit, but is a great place to base oneself for day trips into Switzerland, and being in France is significantly cheaper.

I did a great day trip one early May day: Annemasse-St Gervais-Chamonix-Martigny-Brig-Kandersteg-Sion-Zweisserman-Martigny-Lausanne-Geneva-Aix Les Bains-Annecy.

A really varied day scenery and weather wise. Plenty of snow on the peaks but also warm sunshine and great views. And the trains were virtually empty.
 

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Also bear in mind the relatively short hours of daylight in winter. Worth considering, if possible, travelling a little later when the days are longer. In high alpine regions the snow sticks around right through spring which is also when the crowds tend to be smaller.
Also the chances of line closure by snow fall are higher in winter. You won't get out at Jungfraujoch to look around qute often and have to be satisfied with looking out of the window. I have also found Oberalp Pass closed and had to take the SBB low level route around. To their credit, the day after the pass was open so I came back that way.
 

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If you have inter-rail, a good map and the inter-rail planner app can produce some great round-trip itenenaries which can include nipping into Germany, France, Italy or Austria.
Please never use the Rail Planner app to plan a journey. The SBB and DB apps are much more reliable.
Annemasse is not a great place to visit, but is a great place to base oneself for day trips into Switzerland, and being in France is significantly cheaper.

I did a great day trip one early May day: Annemasse-St Gervais-Chamonix-Martigny-Brig-Kandersteg-Sion-Zweisserman-Martigny-Lausanne-Geneva-Aix Les Bains-Annecy.
Currently, the timetables in France of the Léman Express trains are missing in many planners, except SNCF, so that's something additional to take into account.
 
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