Adventure Travel Cuts

[Bwsbro]

Adventure Travel have announced some major cuts to their operating network starting the 24th of July

Most of the cuts are to their recently awarded Contracted services, however some commercial services have been amended, looks like continued driver shortages and changes to findings are to blame

Major cuts are planned to the C1 service with the Sunday Service withdrawn and the Monday to Saturday frequency dropping to every 20 minutes alongside The first three morning journeys in each direction being withdrawn and the final Serivce departing Culverhouse Cross at 19:02, Pontprennau 19:12.

I fear that these cuts will have a detrimental effect on the service profitability and wouldn’t be surprised if withdrawn by the end of the year
C1 Changes

The 404 between Pontypridd and Porthcawl will be revised to operate between Pontypridd and Bridgend only

Routes Cancelled include
88 - Barry - Penarth
900 - Blackwood - Retail Park
901 - Blackwood Rail Linc
E79/S79 - Merthyr Tydfil - Bedlinog
S80 - Merthyr Tydfil - Treharris
Withdrawn Services

 

[markymark2000]

88 - Barry - Penarth
900 - Blackwood - Retail Park
901 - Blackwood Rail Linc
E79/S79 - Merthyr Tydfil - Bedlinog
S80 - Merthyr Tydfil - Treharris
Withdrawn Services

These are all tenders so could it be that they have lost them at retendering?

I fear that these cuts will have a detrimental effect on the service profitability and wouldn’t be surprised if withdrawn by the end of the year

They've got rid of most other commercial routes. Their focus has moved onto schools and contracts. They've given up on the C1 a while ago and its clear to see with the lack of trying. They got happy plodding on making minimal effort and being paid by the Welsh govt and now the Welsh govt isn't funding competing services, they've got to suffer the consequences of their lack of actions.

 

[Bwsbro]

These are all tenders so could it be that they have lost them at retendering?



They've got rid of most other commercial routes. Their focus has moved onto schools and contracts. They've given up on the C1 a while ago and its clear to see with the lack of trying. They got happy plodding on making minimal effort and being paid by the Welsh govt and now the Welsh govt isn't funding competing services, they've got to suffer the consequences of their lack of actions.

Three separate Local Authorities at the same time, would lead me to think that they’ve given the work up rather than losing.

 

[anthony263]

These are all tenders so could it be that they have lost them at retendering?



They've got rid of most other commercial routes. Their focus has moved onto schools and contracts. They've given up on the C1 a while ago and its clear to see with the lack of trying. They got happy plodding on making minimal effort and being paid by the Welsh govt and now the Welsh govt isn't funding competing services, they've got to suffer the consequences of their lack of actions.

C1 not getting any funding as is the 404 unless it was cut back to Bridgend. Theres quite a backlash in Bridgend about the cutbacks to the 172 and 404 due to Welsh government refusing to fund routes which compete with others. Heard Merthyr Council were trying to.fi d a way to save the S80 as it is well used on Sundays. The 88 and S79/E79 been killed off since covid. The Bendricks part of the 88 route could be served by diverting some daytime trips on the 94

The X2s are going to struggle between Bridgend and Porthcawl this summer I drive the 404s regularly quite a few times we've been full and standings before we even reach Bridgend because people using us as they dont need to change buses at Bridgend.

I used to drive the X2s wasn't u usual yo have to refuse entry at Bridgend because you were full and standing.coming in from Cardiff and Cowbridge. 404s served Nottage who it means loose they last bus service

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These are all tenders so could it be that they have lost them at retendering?



They've got rid of most other commercial routes. Their focus has moved onto schools and contracts. They've given up on the C1 a while ago and its clear to see with the lack of trying. They got happy plodding on making minimal effort and being paid by the Welsh govt and now the Welsh govt isn't funding competing services, they've got to suffer the consequences of their lack of actions.

Routes were cut by Welsh government. Could have been a lot worse frankly

 

[Dai Corner]

C1 not getting any funding as is the 404 unless it was cut back to Bridgend. Theres quite a backlash in Bridgend about the cutbacks to the 172 and 404 due to Welsh government refusing to fund routes which compete with others. Heard Merthyr Council were trying to.fi d a way to save the S80 as it is well used on Sundays. The 88 and S79/E79 been killed off since covid. The Bendricks part of the 88 route could be served by diverting some daytime trips on the 94

The X2s are going to struggle between Bridgend and Porthcawl this summer I drive the 404s regularly quite a few times we've been full and standings before we even reach Bridgend because people using us as they dont need to change buses at Bridgend.

I used to drive the X2s wasn't u usual yo have to refuse entry at Bridgend because you were full and standing.coming in from Cardiff and Cowbridge. 404s served Nottage who it means loose they last bus service

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Routes were cut by Welsh government. Could have been a lot worse frankly

It would be interesting to know how the Welsh Government chose between the competing routes / operators.

 

[markymark2000]

C1 not getting any funding as is the 404 unless it was cut back to Bridgend. Theres quite a backlash in Bridgend about the cutbacks to the 172 and 404 due to Welsh government refusing to fund routes which compete with others. Heard Merthyr Council were trying to.fi d a way to save the S80 as it is well used on Sundays. The 88 and S79/E79 been killed off since covid. The Bendricks part of the 88 route could be served by diverting some daytime trips on the 94e

C1 and 404 clearly weren't included in my original comment. C1 suffers from a common industry disease called 'minimal effort, minimal return' and then the company wonders why people don't flock to their services.

Also easy option for Stagecoach and Adventure, register Bridgend to Porthcawl under a new route and they just so happen to interwork. No funding only for the Bridgend to Porthcawl section but if it's a full and standing service, they'd have little problem making that bit viable.


88 is registered as fully funded by Vale of Glamorgan and this is confirmed in press at the time of it starting. https://penarth.nub.news/news/local...-penarth-to-barry-route-from-september-140637
Quote from Councillor Brooks.

However, I am pleased that the council is able to provide financial support to provide continued service provision for supported local bus services 88 and B3.

S79/E79/S80 are registered as part funded at least but I'd was always led to believe that these are full tenders. Sometimes our sources are wrong, sometimes vosa says the wrong thing.