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I believe that all accidents on the Railways over the years have provided lessons that have been learned and they make the Railways particularly in this country the safe systems that they are today.

Accidents have resulted in the introduction of a miriad of systems such as continuous brakes, interlocking signal systems, AWS, block working, TPWS, working hours monitoring, electric lighting, advances in vehicle crash worthiness, even items such as type of varnishes used.

It has occurred to me that it might be an idea if on their anniversary dates, some accidents may be identified and maybe discussed and any lessons learned may be identified.

I will kick this off with..

Accident at Ramsgate Town on 11th March 1913

"In this case, the driver or the 1.53 p.m. up passenger train, from Margate Sands to Ashford, was unable to stop his train at the proper place, and collided with a brake-van standing at the buffer stops. The blow knocked away the stops, and broke up the brake- van � driving it across the footway behind them, and partly through the end wall of the station. Nine passengers complained of shock or injuries. Some of the brickwork of the wall fell on a girl, as she was entering the station, with the result that she was badly bruised."

http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/BoT_RamsgateTown1913.pdf

It seesm that a continuity brake test was not carried out after the coupling of the loco, which was a requirement then and still a requirement now, over 100 years later. It seems that a Porter was responsible for carrying out the brake test.
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Accident for 12th March

12th March 1989, Purley.

The Purley station rail crash is a train collision that occurred just to the north of Purley railway station in the London Borough of Croydon on Saturday 4 March 1989, leaving five dead and 88 injured. The collision was caused by the driver of one of the trains passing a signal at danger and he pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to 12 months in prison plus 6 months suspended, although this was reduced to four months upon appeal, and in 2007 overturned. The Ministry of Transport report noted that the signal had a high incidence of being passed at danger and recommended that an automatic train protection system should be introduced without delay


Also 12th March 2001

Nine passengers were injured when two trains collided outside a London station during rush-hour.

The two Connex South East Networker trains clipped each other outside Hither Green station near Lewisham in south east London.
 
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As L T C Rolt said - author of "Red for Danger" - which should be mandatory reading for all railway staff.

"Out of this nettle danger - we pluck the rose of safety" -(or similar) ..

Lessons learn is a very good discipline for all trades
 

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It seems that a continuity brake test was not carried out after the coupling of the loco, which was a requirement then and still a requirement now, over 100 years later.

A brake continuity test is not always required now if its just a loco being coupled or uncoupled.
 

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As L T C Rolt said - author of "Red for Danger" - which should be mandatory reading for all railway staff.

"Out of this nettle danger - we pluck the rose of safety" -(or similar) ..

Lessons learn is a very good discipline for all trades
Essential reading though "Red for Danger" is, I am sure the author would wish to give due credit
W. Shakespeare said:
Henry 4 Pt 2, Act 2, Scene 3
Tis dangerous to take a cold, to sleep, to drink; but I tell you, my lord fool, out of this nettle, danger, we pluck this flower, safety.
 

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A brake continuity test is not always required now if its just a loco being coupled or uncoupled.

Is that right? I am surprised, I would have thought a continuity brake test would be required every time the brake pipes were disturbed? But I bow to your greater knowledge in this matter 8-)
 

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Brake continuity test derogation was issued a couple of years ago. Providing the train has had an enhanced brake test (that is to check brakes on rear wagon AND lead wagon work) at the point of origin, and the uncoupling and coupling is done within an hour, no continuity test required.

This only applies to certain wagons and only at authorised locations.
 
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