Abellio Class 321, seat height

[38Cto15E]

I went to Clacton on Sea a couple of weeks ago from Liverpool St and I am sure the unit was an Abellio 321, this is a trip I have never made before.

The seats seemed lower than was the case on my EMT HST and probably lower than on the Circle Line tube I travelled on, although these sometimes seem low.

Am I correct in saying the seats are lower? Also the passing Norwich to Liverpool St trains seemed altogether higher compared to the 321.
FWIW I went to Clacton to go on the Waverley paddle steamer back up the River Thames.

 

[hassaanhc]

I went to Clacton on Sea a couple of weeks ago from Liverpool St and I am sure the unit was an Abellio 321, this is a trip I have never made before.

The seats seemed lower than was the case on my EMT HST and probably lower than on the Circle Line tube I travelled on, although these sometimes seem low.

Am I correct in saying the seats are lower? Also the passing Norwich to Liverpool St trains seemed altogether higher compared to the 321.
FWIW I went to Clacton to go on the Waverley paddle steamer back up the River Thames.

Yes the 321s (and some other stock from the late 1980s era) have those, the lowest and most reclined seats on any train. Very likely to help you fall asleep! But not helpful with the high window line in all Mk3 stock.
The EMT HST seats (also fitted in the Norwich hauled coaches) are a tiny bit higher and not reclined back so much. Those coaches also have a higher floor level than the 321s.
But the S Stock fixed seats (the Circle Line stock) I find a bit high. The tip-up seats are at the perfect height.

 

[38Cto15E]

Thanks very much for that comprehensive reply to my question hassaanhc.

 

[Alfie1014]

Well the good news is that 30 units are being refurbished and that they are to have new seats, the less good is that they rumoured to be the Fainsa ironing board type!