A few questions regarding east midlands trains

[ATW Alex 101]

sorry guys about making 3 threads already but ive got some questions regardin east midlands trains.

did they used to serve barnsley burton on trent and cambridge?

and do some robin hood line services from mansfield woodhouse extend to skegness first train and the last and 1tpd from mansfield woodhouse to norwich?

many thanks

 

[transportphoto]

did they used to serve barnsley burton on trent and cambridge?

Hello, Welcome to the forum!


I am able to advise about Cambridge however not the other two.

East Midlands Trains, as far as I am aware, have never served Cambridge however their predecessor, Central Trains did on their Stansted Airport to Birmingham New Street service which during the franchise change in 2007 went over to Arriva Cross Country.

I hope this helps you,

TP

 

[Jdrowlands]

Midland Mainline used to serve Barnsley, but I think that the DfT told EMT to stop running it when the franchise changed.

 

[ATW Alex 101]

Hello, Welcome to the forum!


I am able to advise about Cambridge however not the other two.

East Midlands Trains, as far as I am aware, have never served Cambridge however their predecessor, Central Trains did on their Stansted Airport to Birmingham New Street service which during the franchise change in 2007 went over to Arriva Cross Country.

I hope this helps you,

TP

thanks for reply project mapping has an emt map from 2007 and it puts cambridge as a limited connect servcice

 

[transportphoto]

I have done a little digging and found that although [stn]CBG[/stn] is not listed on their current Network Map it is listed in the list shown when I click 'ALL STATIONS' on the map here. That suggests that EMT don't currently serve CBG (as you are aware) however may have done in the past.

Looking on Wikipedia (I know, not the best source), on the Cambridge railway station page, under categories I find this "Railway stations served by East Midlands Trains" .

I can't find any photos of EMT at Cambridge either... there are other things that have amazed me on my patch, if they have, this is going to be one of them.

TP

 

[ATW Alex 101]

I have done a little digging and found that although [stn]CBG[/stn] is not listed on their current Network Map it is listed in the list shown when I click 'ALL STATIONS' on the map here. That suggests that EMT don't currently serve CBG (as you are aware) however may have done in the past.

Looking on Wikipedia (I know, not the best source), on the Cambridge railway station page, under categories I find this "Railway stations served by East Midlands Trains" .

I can't find any photos of EMT at Cambridge either... there are other things that have amazed me on my patch, if they have, this is going to be one of them.

TP

ye thanks

the map i gave the linky for was the 2007 one

 

[Dreadnought]

I'm sure EMT used to serve Burton upon Trent with a direct service to/from St Pancras but they don't appear to now.

 

[TheBigD]

EMT served CBG from Nov 07 to Dec 08.

0617 CBG-NRW, 0727 CBG-LIV & 2210 NRW-CBG.
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EMT served CBG from Nov 07 to Dec 08.

0617 CBG-NRW, 0727 CBG-LIV & 2210 NRW-CBG.

 

[sulli_os]

I think EMT served Burton and Barnsley only very briefly - from taking the franchise (MML used to run a once per day London service from each) until the first timetable change. That could have been just months.

 

[tbtc]

Midland Mainline (part of National Express*) introduced new direct London links to/from Barnsley/ Matlock/ Burton when they introduced their two-car Turbostars. Before then it was only one train an hour to Sheffield and one train an hour to Nottingham (MM doubled the overall frequency, though clearly not the number of seats)

Central Trains operated two long distance routes from Merseyside to East Anglia at the start of their franchise. These were generally speaking Liverpool - Nottingham - Norwich and Liverpool - Birmingham - Stansted - hourly on each service.

These were previously a more random assortment of services under BR (e.g. a few of the services via Nottingham/Sheffield ran to Blackpool instead of Liverpool, some ran to Ipswich instead of Norwich/Stansted), but even under Central there were some "swaps" (direct services from Sheffield/Nottingham to Cambridge/Stansted, or from Birmingham to Norwich).

Now things are even "simpler" and all Sheffield/Nottingham services go to Norwich whilst all Birmingham services go to Cambridge/Stansted. However I can understand why Cambridge may have appeared on an early EMT map since some of the services did go to Cambridge (in Central days), there may even have been a brief period when EMT *did* run there (I can't be sure).

(* - sounds strange in 2011, but ten/fifteen years ago National Express were part of big improvements on some franchises, rather than just being remembered for the mixed back of NXEA)
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ETA: I think the services stopped running to Matlock when the 222s replaced the 170s - Burton and Barnsley may have lasted a little longer

 

[DarloRich]

sorry guys about making 3 threads already but ive got some questions regardin east midlands trains.

did they used to serve barnsley burton on trent and cambridge?

and do some robin hood line services from mansfield woodhouse extend to skegness first train and the last and 1tpd from mansfield woodhouse to norwich?

many thanks

did they not serve burton via the coalville knighton juntion line? Not with many trains but i think daily - was it a 170?

 

[Welshman]

To answer the last part of your question:=

The 0707 M-F Mansfield Woodhouse-Nottingham is shown as being through to Norwich[d. Nottingham 0752].

And there are through services from Mansfield Woodhouse to Skegness at 0852 on Sundays, and 1807 return from Skeggy [both until 11 September].

There may be other times when stock is interchanged between the Skeggy and Robin Hood line services at Nottingham, but the above are the only ones which are publicly shown as through trains.