A couple of routes....

[CallySleeperKid]

On a railtour this weekend and for the sake of my mileage I wonder if anyone could suggest a route for the following.......

Firstly from the list of stopping points we have Stockport, Manchester Victoria, Bolton, Originally it was either Manchester Pic or Manchester Vic, but routeing has sent us to Vic.

From the RailMiles Mileage Engine I have got the following route....

Stockport, Heaton Norris Junction, Heaton Chapel, Levenshulme, Slade Lane Junction, Longsight South, Ardwick Junction, Manchester Piccadilly, Manchester Oxford Road, Deansgate, Castlefield Junction, Ordsall Lane Junction, Manchester Deal Street Junction, Manchester Victoria

Manchester Victoria, Manchester Deal Street Junction, Salford Central, Salford Crescent, Agecroft Junction, Clifton, Kearsley, Farnworth, Moses Gate, Burnden Junction, Bolton

Would that be the route you would expect, especially with it still passing through Piccadily and having to go back in the direction it just came from at Victoria?

Secondly we have from the tout itinerary......

and then around the north of Glasgow via Motherwell, Cowlairs and Westerton to join the West Highland Line at Craigendoran Junction.

The routeing I have from RailMiles Mileage Engine I have....

Motherwell, Braidhurst Loop (Down), Braidhurst Loop (Up), Mossend South Junction, Mossend North Junction, Mossend Yard DRS, Whifflet South Junction, Whifflet, Whifflet North Junction, Coatbridge Junction, Coatbridge Central, Coatbridge Freightliner Terminal, Gartsherrie South Junction, Gartcosh Junction, Gartcosh, Stepps, Sighthill East Junction, Springburn, Sighthill West Junction, Cowlairs West Junction, Cowlairs North Junction

Cowlairs North Junction, Ashfield, Possilpark & Parkhouse, Gilshochill, Summerston, Maryhill, Maryhill Park Junction, Westerton

That seems to look OK to me but the only rail maps I can check on are the ones on National Rail Enquires, but they show only passenger routes, so some junctions are not shown.

Like I say, this is for mileage purposes, and I may just have to make a note of the stations we pass through and try and work it out after, but anyone with a little more knowledge of the areas than me may see any mistakes in the above routeing.

Cheers, CSK.

 

[hairyhandedfool]

There is another route from Stockport to Manchester Victoria which XC have used in the past to get around engineering work between Stockport and Piccadilly. I'm not certain of the exact route, but it uses the Miles Platting end of Victoria going out towards Ashton-Under-Lyne and Stalybridge.

I'm sure a shunt at Ordsall Lane is possible (The Royal train has been to the Manchester Science and Industry Museum in the last year or so apparently and there are sidings accessed from only one line there also), but there would have to be a reversal as it is not a triangular junction.

Ordsall Lane Junction is were the Manchester Piccadilly/Oxford Rd/Deansgate to Preston/Wigan line meets the Manchester Victoria to Liverpool "Chat Moss" line.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

For a working from Stockport to Bolton via Manchester Victoria, I would have thought that a route via Heaton Norris, Reddish South, Denton then Ashton Moss and Clayton Vale would have been more straightforward.

Via Manchester Deal Street will require reversing, I think.

 

[CallySleeperKid]

For a working from Stockport to Bolton via Manchester Victoria, I would have thought that a route via Heaton Norris, Reddish South, Denton then Ashton Moss and Clayton Vale would have been more straightforward.

Via Manchester Deal Street will require reversing, I think.

I would have thought a railtour of 14 hours and 40 minutes start to finish would be avoiding having to stop and reverse somewhere, although being top and tailed?

I assumed there would be a direct route from Stockport to Manchester Victoria and onto Bolton without reversing, but I guess i'll have to wait and see.

 

[yorkie]

I assumed there would be a direct route from Stockport to Manchester Victoria and onto Bolton without reversing, but I guess i'll have to wait and see.

Yes there is, HFF said so earlier Look on Google Maps and you'll see it.

 

[CallySleeperKid]

Yes there is, HFF said so earlier Look on Google Maps and you'll see it.

Ahhh, I actually followed it, eventually!

 

[John @ home]

CSK, I think someone needs to buy you a good railway atlas of GB!

 

[CallySleeperKid]

CSK, I think someone needs to buy you a good railway atlas of GB!

I only asked because of the mileage competition, as we will be using non-standard routes in some places, but maybe you right