• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

9m86 1452 edb-eus 23/05

Status
Not open for further replies.

mikestone1952

Member
Joined
12 Feb 2011
Messages
299
Any idea what happened to this - seems to have been delayed at Stafford and then gone TV and judging from a subsequent ECS arriving at Nuneaton, terminated at Lichfield. This cl.390 then appears to have turned into a Voyager and run to Stafford - however trackit has this last with times at Penkridge so presumably actually went to Oxley.
Both RTT and trackit have it as cord pulled, but it seems odd that at almost exactly the same time the 18.40 EUS-MAN was cape for the same reason.
Further confused by a 20.00 schedule from Stafford, but this left early and was presumably the booked 5D32BHM-Central Rivers diverted to Crewe, also in RTT as cord pulled.
All this from noticing there is a STA-Central Rivers in for tonight seemingly out of thin air - presumably no fwd dvr for 5D32.
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

DarloRich

Veteran Member
Joined
12 Oct 2010
Messages
32,908
Location
Fenny Stratford
Any idea what happened to this - seems to have been delayed at Stafford and then gone TV and judging from a subsequent ECS arriving at Nuneaton, terminated at Lichfield. This cl.390 then appears to have turned into a Voyager and run to Stafford - however trackit has this last with times at Penkridge so presumably actually went to Oxley.
Both RTT and trackit have it as cord pulled, but it seems odd that at almost exactly the same time the 18.40 EUS-MAN was cape for the same reason.
Further confused by a 20.00 schedule from Stafford, but this left early and was presumably the booked 5D32BHM-Central Rivers diverted to Crewe, also in RTT as cord pulled.
All this from noticing there is a STA-Central Rivers in for tonight seemingly out of thin air - presumably no fwd dvr for 5D32.

and in English......................................
 

CosherB

Established Member
Joined
23 Feb 2007
Messages
3,041
Location
Northwich
Any idea what happened to this - seems to have been delayed at Stafford and then gone TV and judging from a subsequent ECS arriving at Nuneaton, terminated at Lichfield. This cl.390 then appears to have turned into a Voyager and run to Stafford - however trackit has this last with times at Penkridge so presumably actually went to Oxley.
Both RTT and trackit have it as cord pulled, but it seems odd that at almost exactly the same time the 18.40 EUS-MAN was cape for the same reason.
Further confused by a 20.00 schedule from Stafford, but this left early and was presumably the booked 5D32BHM-Central Rivers diverted to Crewe, also in RTT as cord pulled.
All this from noticing there is a STA-Central Rivers in for tonight seemingly out of thin air - presumably no fwd dvr for 5D32.

PMSL! :lol:

http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/
 

najaB

Veteran Member
Joined
28 Aug 2011
Messages
33,606
Location
Scotland
I by and large understood it...
So did I, but the forum rules say (in part) that posts should be:

Accessible
  • Please remember many members do not understand rail “jargon” (including acronyms, station codes and specialist terms). Such terms should be correctly defined the first time they are used; codes and abbreviations must not be made up.
 

bb21

Emeritus Moderator
Joined
4 Feb 2010
Messages
24,452
From what I can make out, 1A53 had a loss of air and was terminated at Nuneaton. 9M86 was terminated at Stafford, to be used as a replacement unit for 1A53. The 390 then formed 9G46 on arrival at Euston.

The Voyagers on 1A53 then formed 5D53 and went to Central Rivers via Stafford and New Street. Had to wait at Stafford for forward driver, departing 2116.

Attribution was originally down to a passcom activation, but was later revised.

All other movements are likely to be service recovery measures due to various tracks on the Trent Valley being shut.
 

86211

Member
Joined
14 Apr 2015
Messages
24
9M86 had started from Warrington Bank Quay due to the Pendolino at Edinburgh having a pantograph fault.
 

mikestone1952

Member
Joined
12 Feb 2011
Messages
299
The abbreviations I used are all standard official codes and anyone with a useful contribution will have understood them.
EDB = Edinburgh Waverley
EUS = London Euston
MAN = Manchester Piccadilly
STA = Stafford
;
Confirmed that 1A53 16.35 Chester-Euston was in trouble at Lichfield North and the plan was to transfer passengers on site. In the event 1A53 was able to go forward to Nuneaton for a transfer. As there weren't two 1A53s on the move together there was no need to produce a fresh schedule so it doesn't show up on "public" systems.
The Voyagers returned to Central Rivers via Stafford and Birmingham, with a seperate schedule from Stafford, hence the odd Penkridge times in the Nuneaton-Stafford schedule.
The 18.40 Euston-Manchester, being a peak fares train, appears to have been cancelled to provide a set for the 19.10 to Chester as far as Crewe, where it formed the booked 5G73 Manchester Oxley, withe the set on 5D32 Birmingham-Central Rivers diverted to Crewe to form the 19.10 forward.
Thus the attribution to cord pulled is reasonable - as far as I am aware any change of attribution doesn't get into the public systems.
Incidentally last night's 5D32 went into the goods at Stafford rather than p.6.
 

Darandio

Established Member
Joined
24 Feb 2007
Messages
11,129
Location
Redcar
The abbreviations I used are all standard official codes and anyone with a useful contribution will have understood them.

EDB = Edinburgh Waverley
EUS = London Euston
MAN = Manchester Piccadilly
STA = Stafford

And ECS, and RTT.......

Regardless of whether you believe people should understand them, many don't and thats why there is a rule about it.
 

rebmcr

Established Member
Joined
15 Nov 2011
Messages
4,005
Location
St Neots
The abbreviations I used are all standard official codes and anyone with a useful contribution will have understood them.

The rule about abbreviations is a forum standard and if you were a useful contributor you would understand it.
 

Llanigraham

On Moderation
Joined
23 Mar 2013
Messages
6,487
Location
Powys
The abbreviations I used are all standard official codes and anyone with a useful contribution will have understood them.
EDB = Edinburgh Waverley
EUS = London Euston
MAN = Manchester Piccadilly
STA = Stafford

They may be station codes, but you should remember that not all of us use or need to know any of these (eg signalling staff etc), plus the Forum rules state that they should not be used in a first instance.
 

Merseysider

Established Member
Fares Advisor
Joined
22 Jan 2014
Messages
5,627
Location
Birmingham
mikestone1952 said:
anyone with a useful contribution will have understood them
With respect, this is complete crap.

The forum is open to all, regardless of their interest or knowledge. To keep it inclusive, it's necessary to write posts in plain English.
 

A0

On Moderation
Joined
19 Jan 2008
Messages
7,751
With respect, this is complete crap.

The forum is open to all, regardless of their interest or knowledge. To keep it inclusive, it's necessary to write posts in plain English.

Probably the most succinct and accurate post I've read around here in a very long time - if there was a 'Like' button, I'd have clicked it.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top