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Farnborough
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Do they just roll a set of dice to decide which unit to bring out next?
My OCD is really struggling...
My OCD is really struggling...
norbitonflyer
Established Member
Sorry for hiatus in updating - I've been away but have been keeping track.
99009
Member
So, taking various posts from here and putting the info together, here's the current status and location of every 701/0.
Key:
Green = In Passenger Service
Purple = Stored At Derby, Eastleigh, Long Marston Or Marchwood
Red = In London On The SWR Network Not In Passenger Service
701001 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701002 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701003 - Derby Litchurch Lane - Not Delivered To SWR
701004 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701005 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701006 - Long Marston - Stored
701007 - Long Marston - Stored
701008 - Long Marston - Stored
701009 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701010 - Long Marston - Stored
701011 - Long Marston - Stored
701012 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701013 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701014 - Marchwood - Stored
701015 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701016 - Marchwood - Stored
701017 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701018 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701019 - Marchwood - Stored
701020 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701021 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701022 - Marchwood - Stored
701023 - Long Marston - Stored
701024 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701025 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701026 - Marchwood - Stored
701027 - Eastleigh - Stored
701028 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service (See Note Below)
701029 - Marchwood - Stored
701030 - Long Marston - Stored
701031 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701032 - Marchwood - Stored
701033 - Long Marston - Stored
701034 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701035 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701036 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701037 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701038 - Marchwood - Stored
701039 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701040 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701041 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701042 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701043 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701044 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701045 - Long Marston - Stored
701046 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701047 - Marchwood - Stored
701048 - Long Marston - Stored
701049 - Long Marston - Stored
701050 - Long Marston - Stored
701051 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701052 - Long Marston - Stored
701053 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701054 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701055 - Long Marston - Stored
701056 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701057 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701058 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701059 - Long Marston - Stored
701060 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
Total With SWR In Passenger Service: 23/60
Total With SWR NOT In Passenger Service: 11/60 (Including 028 which previously briefly entered passenger service)
Total Stored At Long Marston: 15/60
Total Stored At Marchwood: 9/60
Total Stored At Eastleigh: 1/60 (027)
Total Stored At Derby Litchurch Lane: 1/60 (003)
Key:
Green = In Passenger Service
Purple = Stored At Derby, Eastleigh, Long Marston Or Marchwood
Red = In London On The SWR Network Not In Passenger Service
701001 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701002 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701003 - Derby Litchurch Lane - Not Delivered To SWR
701004 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701005 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701006 - Long Marston - Stored
701007 - Long Marston - Stored
701008 - Long Marston - Stored
701009 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701010 - Long Marston - Stored
701011 - Long Marston - Stored
701012 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701013 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701014 - Marchwood - Stored
701015 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701016 - Marchwood - Stored
701017 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701018 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701019 - Marchwood - Stored
701020 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701021 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701022 - Marchwood - Stored
701023 - Long Marston - Stored
701024 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701025 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701026 - Marchwood - Stored
701027 - Eastleigh - Stored
701028 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service (See Note Below)
701029 - Marchwood - Stored
701030 - Long Marston - Stored
701031 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701032 - Marchwood - Stored
701033 - Long Marston - Stored
701034 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701035 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701036 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701037 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701038 - Marchwood - Stored
701039 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701040 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701041 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701042 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701043 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701044 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701045 - Long Marston - Stored
701046 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701047 - Marchwood - Stored
701048 - Long Marston - Stored
701049 - Long Marston - Stored
701050 - Long Marston - Stored
701051 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701052 - Long Marston - Stored
701053 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701054 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701055 - Long Marston - Stored
701056 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701057 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701058 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701059 - Long Marston - Stored
701060 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
Total With SWR In Passenger Service: 23/60
Total With SWR NOT In Passenger Service: 11/60 (Including 028 which previously briefly entered passenger service)
Total Stored At Long Marston: 15/60
Total Stored At Marchwood: 9/60
Total Stored At Eastleigh: 1/60 (027)
Total Stored At Derby Litchurch Lane: 1/60 (003)
mansonlo49
Member
thank you for update, appreciated
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TT-ONR-NRN
Veteran Member
That’s very helpful, thanks for taking the time to compile it for us.
D365
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It’s the exact opposite of random - the order in which units are ’entered’ into passenger service is meticulously planned.
Do note that train fleets are almost never introduced sequentially.
45076
Member
Does anyone have a location list for the 701/5's that could be shared?
Peter Sarf
Established Member
According to my records
Bicester 15/30 701/5s and no 701/s
Derby 3/30 701/5s and 1/60 701/0s
Long Marston 6/30 701/5s and 15/6 701/s
Marchwood 0/30 701/5s and 9 701/0s
Old Dalby 1/30 701/5s and no 701/s
SWR 5/30 701/5s and 35/60 701/0s.
I will pad it out with numbers if I get time before someone else does.
Peter Sarf
Established Member
List of 701/5s' and locations.
701501 Old Dalby
701502 Derby Litchurch Lane
701503 Wimbledon / Clapham Junction
701504 Wimbledon / Clapham Junction
701505 Bicester
701506 Bicester
701507 Bicester
701508 Derby Litchurch Lane
701509 Long Marston
701510 Wimbledon mainly ?.
701511 Bicester
701512 Long Marston
701513 Bicester
701514 Bicester
701515 Bicester
701516 Bicester
701517 Long Marston
701518 Bicester
701519 Long Marston
701520 Long Marston
701521 Bicester
701522 Long Marston
701523 Bicester
701524 Derby Litchurch Lane
701525 Bicester
701526 Bicester
701527 Bicester
701528 Clapham Junction Regularly/Always
701529 Clapham Junction Regularly/Always
701530 Bicester
701501 Old Dalby
701502 Derby Litchurch Lane
701503 Wimbledon / Clapham Junction
701504 Wimbledon / Clapham Junction
701505 Bicester
701506 Bicester
701507 Bicester
701508 Derby Litchurch Lane
701509 Long Marston
701510 Wimbledon mainly ?.
701511 Bicester
701512 Long Marston
701513 Bicester
701514 Bicester
701515 Bicester
701516 Bicester
701517 Long Marston
701518 Bicester
701519 Long Marston
701520 Long Marston
701521 Bicester
701522 Long Marston
701523 Bicester
701524 Derby Litchurch Lane
701525 Bicester
701526 Bicester
701527 Bicester
701528 Clapham Junction Regularly/Always
701529 Clapham Junction Regularly/Always
701530 Bicester
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mansonlo49
Member
Still more than half of the /5s out of SWR bounds
Peter Sarf
Established Member
Yes, the vast majority of 701/5s are no where near SWR, only 5/30 or 17% are on SWR as opposed to 58% of the 701/0s. That is why I don't believe 701/5s are going to be in service anytime soon and possibly not until all 701/0s are in service. It is unlikely to be a priority until 701/0s are all in. OK maybe almost all 701/0s as there are bound to be a few really obstinate 701/0s like with any new fleet but especially given the time stored !.
mansonlo49
Member
Probably the /5s need to go through a lot of checks before coming back for service
Peter Sarf
Established Member
My assumption is that most of the 701/5s have never been anywhere near SWR in the past (I was not following their movements before 2024). Unlike the Long Marston 701/0s which definitely have visited SWR this year. The Marchwood 701/0s might be in a similar state to most 701/5s (or worse if their additional exposure to sea air is significant). So yes I reckon the 701/5s are going to need the same checks as the 701/0s that have visited SWR have had so far. That will be for issues all new trains have plus the issues that are caused by long term storage.
mansonlo49
Member
so the Marchwood 701s need big checks same as the 701/5s you meant?
Peter Sarf
Established Member
Yes I think so, unless I missed those 701/0s going through Eastleigh/Wimbledon before 2024. But then those 701/0s have since been left in the sea air at Marchwood so they could well still be worse than the 701/5s.
We are a long way off the thread subject of operation. Suffice to say operation will not be soon !.
Big Jumby 74
Established Member
As with any 'stored' stock, it will need to be made safe for movement with relevant checks made and any defects acted upon prior to movement, and in the case of units required for service, they wil then be 'commissioned' (another series of checks and updates etc). Each unit will be dealt with on an individual one by one basis, which then dictates which units enter service first.
45076
Member
Thank you Peter
mansonlo49
Member
701026 got dragged to Wimbledon today as 5Q84
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norbitonflyer
Established Member
Number entering service each month
Jan 2024 - 3
Feb 2024 - 1 (briefly)
Mar 2024 -1
Apr 2024 - 0
May 2024 - 0
Jun 2024 - 0
July 2024 - 0
Aug 2024 - 0
Sep 2024 - 0
Oct 2024 -1
Nov 2024- 1
Dec 2024 - 0
Jan 2025 - 0
Feb 2025 - 0
Mar 2025 - 2
Apr 2025 - 0
May 2025 - 2
Jun 2025 - 3
July 2025 - 4
Aug 2025 - 4
Sep 2025 - 2
Even at the rate of one a week it would be next June before all the 701/0s are in service Can the 455s last that long?
They don't need all the 701/0s in service. Replacing every 455 diagram with a 701/0 including the 4 car one needs 35 running 701s each day. That would be roughly 38-40 in passenger service depending how far they are willing to maximise availability.
On paper all 701/0s is enough to replace the 455s, replace all 458s and a couple left over to displace some 450s.
mansonlo49
Member
But just should be 1 by a week, not sure what happened in september
99009
Member
Update since the last post. No change to units entering passenger service. 701026 is now in London instead of Marchwood and 701055+701059 are also now in London instead of Long Marston.
Key:
Green = In Passenger Service
Purple = Stored At Derby, Eastleigh, Long Marston Or Marchwood
Red = In London On The SWR Network Not In Passenger Service
701001 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701002 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701003 - Derby Litchurch Lane - Not Delivered To SWR
701004 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701005 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701006 - Long Marston - Stored
701007 - Long Marston - Stored
701008 - Long Marston - Stored
701009 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701010 - Long Marston - Stored
701011 - Long Marston - Stored
701012 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701013 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701014 - Marchwood - Stored
701015 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701016 - Marchwood - Stored
701017 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701018 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701019 - Marchwood - Stored
701020 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701021 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701022 - Marchwood - Stored
701023 - Long Marston - Stored
701024 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701025 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701026 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701027 - Eastleigh - Stored
701028 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service (See Note Below)
701029 - Marchwood - Stored
701030 - Long Marston - Stored
701031 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701032 - Marchwood - Stored
701033 - Long Marston - Stored
701034 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701035 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701036 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701037 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701038 - Marchwood - Stored
701039 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701040 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701041 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701042 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701043 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701044 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701045 - Long Marston - Stored
701046 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701047 - Marchwood - Stored
701048 - Long Marston - Stored
701049 - Long Marston - Stored
701050 - Long Marston - Stored
701051 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701052 - Long Marston - Stored
701053 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701054 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701055 - Eastleigh - Stored
701056 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701057 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701058 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701059 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701060 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
Total With SWR In Passenger Service: 23/60
Total With SWR NOT In Passenger Service: 13/60 (Including 028 which previously briefly entered passenger service)
Total Stored At Long Marston: 13/60
Total Stored At Marchwood: 8/60
Total Stored At Eastleigh: 2/60 (027+055)
Total Stored At Derby Litchurch Lane: 1/60 (003)
Key:
Green = In Passenger Service
Purple = Stored At Derby, Eastleigh, Long Marston Or Marchwood
Red = In London On The SWR Network Not In Passenger Service
701001 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701002 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701003 - Derby Litchurch Lane - Not Delivered To SWR
701004 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701005 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701006 - Long Marston - Stored
701007 - Long Marston - Stored
701008 - Long Marston - Stored
701009 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701010 - Long Marston - Stored
701011 - Long Marston - Stored
701012 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701013 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701014 - Marchwood - Stored
701015 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701016 - Marchwood - Stored
701017 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701018 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701019 - Marchwood - Stored
701020 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701021 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701022 - Marchwood - Stored
701023 - Long Marston - Stored
701024 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701025 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701026 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701027 - Eastleigh - Stored
701028 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service (See Note Below)
701029 - Marchwood - Stored
701030 - Long Marston - Stored
701031 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701032 - Marchwood - Stored
701033 - Long Marston - Stored
701034 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701035 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701036 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701037 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701038 - Marchwood - Stored
701039 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701040 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701041 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701042 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701043 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701044 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701045 - Long Marston - Stored
701046 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701047 - Marchwood - Stored
701048 - Long Marston - Stored
701049 - Long Marston - Stored
701050 - Long Marston - Stored
701051 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701052 - Long Marston - Stored
701053 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701054 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701055 - Eastleigh - Stored
701056 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701057 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701058 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701059 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701060 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
Total With SWR In Passenger Service: 23/60
Total With SWR NOT In Passenger Service: 13/60 (Including 028 which previously briefly entered passenger service)
Total Stored At Long Marston: 13/60
Total Stored At Marchwood: 8/60
Total Stored At Eastleigh: 2/60 (027+055)
Total Stored At Derby Litchurch Lane: 1/60 (003)
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055 went to Eastleigh on 3/10. Has it moved to London?
99009
Member
Whoops, my error. List now corrected.
Flange Squeal
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For reference, 004 is at (and has been for a while) Farnham depot, not in London.
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Further to my previous post, 060 has now joined 004 at Farnham Depot.
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Further to my previous post, 060 has now joined 004 at Farnham Depot.
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Slight correction required in regard to 701003: It has indeed been delivered and RETURNED:
Recent history appears to be: Derby to Wembley 05.11.23, Wembley to Eastleigh 07.02.24: Mileage accumilation while at Eastleigh, Mortgaged (ie: paid for - so accepted) 11.11.24, returned Eastleigh to Derby Lit 09.01.25: Presumably it requires some sort of rectification.
99009
Member
Cheers for that, list now updated below.
Just so everyone is aware, I don't have the time to do updates after each move, only every now and then, so may miss some things.
Updates since the last list are that 701009+701020 have entered passenger service, 701048+701050 are now on the SWR Arterio network instead of Long Marston and 701052 is now at Eastleigh instead of Long Marston.
Key:
Green = In Passenger Service
Purple = Stored At Derby, Eastleigh, Long Marston Or Marchwood
Red = On The SWR Arterio Network Not In Passenger Service
701001 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701002 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701003 - Derby Litchurch Lane - Awaiting Redelivery To SWR
701004 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701005 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701006 - Long Marston - Stored
701007 - Long Marston - Stored
701008 - Long Marston - Stored
701009 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701010 - Long Marston - Stored
701011 - Long Marston - Stored
701012 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701013 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701014 - Marchwood - Stored
701015 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701016 - Marchwood - Stored
701017 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701018 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701019 - Marchwood - Stored
701020 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701021 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701022 - Marchwood - Stored
701023 - Long Marston - Stored
701024 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701025 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701026 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701027 - Eastleigh - Stored
701028 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service (See Note Below)
701029 - Marchwood - Stored
701030 - Long Marston - Stored
701031 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701032 - Marchwood - Stored
701033 - Long Marston - Stored
701034 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701035 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701036 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701037 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701038 - Marchwood - Stored
701039 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701040 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701041 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701042 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701043 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701044 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701045 - Long Marston - Stored
701046 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701047 - Marchwood - Stored
701048 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701049 - Long Marston - Stored
701050 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701051 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701052 - Eastleigh - Stored
701053 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701054 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701055 - Eastleigh - Stored
701056 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701057 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701058 - SWR - In Passenger Service
701059 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
701060 - SWR - Not In Passenger Service
Total With SWR In Passenger Service: 25/60
Total With SWR NOT In Passenger Service: 13/60 (Including 028 which previously briefly entered passenger service)
Total Stored At Long Marston: 10/60
Total Stored At Marchwood: 8/60
Total Stored At Eastleigh: 3/60 (027+052+055)
Total Stored At Derby Litchurch Lane: 1/60 (003)
FusionZenFlame
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Thanks for the update, nice to know I have a checklist now for what ones I need. Ive done only 10 of these so far.
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