442s on the PDL

[pompeyfan]

When the 442s used to run on the pdl express they were only allowed to run as a ten car set, can anyone clarify why. And also how was the problem of short platforms dealt with, was it a uds similar to the desiros?

 

[Matt Taylor]

Does PDL stand for Portsmouth Direct Line?

If so the 442s were used in and 10 car formations for a number of years.

 

[Waldgrun]

When the class 442's worked on the Portsmouth Direct, the fast services called Woking, Guildford, Haslemere, Petersfield, Havant, Fratton, Portsmouth & Southsea, Portsmouth Harbour. At all stations except Fratton had full length platforms, so all doors where released at these stations, and only the doors in the front 5 coaches at Fratton. Announcements where made at stations and on train advising such. However this didn't stop some prat want to punch my lights out at Portsmouth & Southsea because the doors didn't open at Fratton and he had heard no announcements (use of a Walkman didn't help) and I dared to ask him which pascom he had pulled, at Portsmouth & Southsea due to the fact that the doors in the front 5 coaches had activated, and not the rear 5 coaches, never found out if it was a unit fault or an error made by the guard!

 

[Southern]

When the 442s used to run on the pdl express they were only allowed to run as a ten car set, can anyone clarify why. And also how was the problem of short platforms dealt with, was it a uds similar to the desiros?

Not sure where you heard this but the following were booked single 442's in 2003:

Monday - Friday

1017/1047 Portsmouth Harbour - Waterloo via Guildford
1208/1238/2200/2220 Waterloo - Portsmouth Harbour via Guildford

Saturday

2038/2208 Waterloo - Portsmouth Harbour via Guildford

 

[pompeyfan]

Thanks for the replys. I had heard along the lines of 442s would trip or weren't powerful enough or some rubbish to work as a 5 wes up around guildford. And in regards to fratton how
Did they only open the front 5. Did they have sdo?

 

[Lrd]

Thanks for the replys. I had heard along the lines of 442s would trip or weren't powerful enough or some rubbish to work as a 5 wes up around guildford. And in regards to fratton how
Did they only open the front 5. Did they have sdo?

It would be the same as they do now with the 444s, Unit Deselect (UDS I do believe).

 

[lewisf]

A couple of weeks ago I got a 10 car 442 to Brighton from Clapham Jct platform 15 and only the front 5 car's doors opened. So just like a desiro.

So just to reiterate, they have UDS

 

[pompeyfan]

Oh right. Thanks guys.