377/6

[southern442]

Sorry if this has come up, but can the driver turn the camera light on and of!

I believe so, as I have seen some running without the light on.

EDIT: Nope (see post below)

 

[JB25]

Sorry if this has come up, but can the driver turn the camera light on and of!

No you cannot. I certainly haven't been told or seen how to do it, and there is no reason to either.

 

[westcoaster]

No you cannot. I certainly haven't been told or seen how to do it, and there is no reason to either.

Only reason is as I was pulling into mitcham junction the unit on the down the light switched off as I came around the corner and other units with it not on.

 

[A-driver]

No you cannot. I certainly haven't been told or seen how to do it, and there is no reason to either.

Do they turn off in sidings along with the headlamp? I would have thought it could be very dazzling to people on the ground, especially being just below eye level.

 

[physics34]

Only reason is as I was pulling into mitcham junction the unit on the down the light switched off as I came around the corner and other units with it not on.

The light goes off when the train loses door interlock.
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This screen grab was taken during testing. There's no third rail in the test pen.

Regarding location, the track debris illuminator is close to the ground, but the TD camera is on the non-driving side of the cab - to the top right corner. Picture below.

Illuminator:

Thanks for the info.

 

[JB25]

I was going to say that... When you stop at a station the light goes off (and release the doors). When you depart again the light is back on.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I nearly missed a haulage on one last month because the lower light wasn't working when it was approaching Balham - saw the train coming, registered that there was no extra light so I reasoned it wasn't a /6, walked across the platform to study the timetable board and only when the thing was in the platform and ready to depart did I realise it was /6 and I needed it for haulage! Got on it with only 2 - 3 seconds to spare!

 

[samj]

377624/377619 working 0800 Horsham-Norwood Junction (via Gatwick) today. Any reasoning for this? Was quite pleasantly surprised when it turned up on my train for work this morning!

 

[swt_passenger]

377624/377619 working 0800 Horsham-Norwood Junction (via Gatwick) today. Any reasoning for this? Was quite pleasantly surprised when it turned up on my train for work this morning!

Special timetable for the weekend because of planned works at London Bridge perhaps?

 

[Class377/5]

377624/377619 working 0800 Horsham-Norwood Junction (via Gatwick) today. Any reasoning for this? Was quite pleasantly surprised when it turned up on my train for work this morning!

There a Horsham to London via Gatwick 10 car every weekday evening. It gets to Three Bridges around 19:15-30. Cant remember the timing tho.

 

[James Wake]

Train works the 1750 VIC to Horsham via Dorking on a weekday evening, then 1930 Horsham to VIC via GTW (1948 at TBD)

 

[andy19_64]

There was actually 2x10 car 377's running from Horsham to Norwood Junction today. The other one was 7601 and 7621. These were the ones that are normally berthed in the north sidings on a Friday night for Monday mornings service.
They both went back into the branch this evening at 19.20 and 20.15ish

 

[TEW]

Yesterday and today, 377321+377626 have been working together in passenger service. AFAIK this is the first time a 377/6 has worked with any other 377 in service.

 

[user15681]

Yesterday and today, 377321+377626 have been working together in passenger service. AFAIK this is the first time a 377/6 has worked with any other 377 in service.

I'm sure they ran with other 377s during testing, but this is definitely the first time in passenger service. Was pretty strange walking from one into the other!

 

[TEW]

I know they were coupled to other 377s on depot, but don't think any actually ran outside of the depot.
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It certainly was quite weird walking through from one unit to the other.

 

[southern442]

Does anyone know why the 377/6's make a sound similar to the 313's whilst stationary?

 

[Class377/5]

I know they were coupled to other 377s on depot, but don't think any actually ran outside of the depot.
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It certainly was quite weird walking through from one unit to the other.

I'm sure they ran with other 377s during testing, but this is definitely the first time in passenger service. Was pretty strange walking from one into the other!

Yesterday and today, 377321+377626 have been working together in passenger service. AFAIK this is the first time a 377/6 has worked with any other 377 in service.

Until recently the 377/6 sere not permitted to couple o the rest of the Electrostar fleet due to incompatible software. 377604 was coupled to 377311 for initial unit testing in case it failed with the commissioned unit being taking over from 311. This was achieved by putting the 377/6 software into 377311 with a software patch.

The recent coupling is a result of software testing and the fact that only 23 377/6 are available for service out of the required 24 (from a fleet of 26).

 

[physics34]

Does anyone know why the 377/6's make a sound similar to the 313's whilst stationary?

I imagine you are talking about the compressor sound????

 

[Fincra5]

I know they were coupled to other 377s on depot, but don't think any actually ran outside of the depot.
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It certainly was quite weird walking through from one unit to the other.

Well thats the first time i've seen that! I'm still yet to work a 377/6, can't imagine I will unless I cover a Horsham Job (via bridges) or during disruption.

 

[SN319]

Anyone know if any of these are diagrammed to run the peak Caterham/Tattenham Corner splitting at Purley services?

 

[TEW]

Yes they are. The following are booked 377/6s:
0731 Caterham & 0718 Tattenham Corner-London Victoria
0745 Caterham & 0732 Tattenham Corner-London Bridge

1738 London Victoria-Caterham & Tattenham Corner
1845 London Victoria-Caterham & Tattenham Corner

There are other 10-car formations on some peak Caterham & Tattenham splitters, but they're formed 3+3+4 rather than 5+5.

 

[RichJF]

Until recently the 377/6 sere not permitted to couple o the rest of the Electrostar fleet due to incompatible software. 377604 was coupled to 377311 for initial unit testing in case it failed with the commissioned unit being taking over from 311. This was achieved by putting the 377/6 software into 377311 with a software patch.

A377/6 with the rest of the fleet happened at London Bridge yesterday.
The ex-LBG 17:44 to East Grinstead was worked by a 377/6 & a 377/2. It was really weird seeing the two of them coupled together in Platform 9 with the differing door chimes and seating layouts.

Quite a few passengers looked very surprised firstly that it was only 9 coaches and secondly that half was a new unit & half was an "older" one.

I didn't have time to snap a pic due to the crowds & the train was slowly leaving.

 

[Class377/5]

A377/6 with the rest of the fleet happened at London Bridge yesterday.
The ex-LBG 17:44 to East Grinstead was worked by a 377/6 & a 377/2. It was really weird seeing the two of them coupled together in Platform 9 with the differing door chimes and seating layouts.

Quite a few passengers looked very surprised firstly that it was only 9 coaches and secondly that half was a new unit & half was an "older" one.

I didn't have time to snap a pic due to the crowds & the train was slowly leaving.

The 377/6 are not compatible currently with the /1, /4 & /5 fleets. The /2s have now had the mods (bar Thameslink ones).

 

[southern442]

The 377/6 are not compatible currently with the /1, /4 & /5 fleets. The /2s have now had the mods (bar Thameslink ones).

Is that so they can couple with the /7s if something happens on the WCML?

 

[Class377/5]

Is that so they can couple with the /7s if something happens on the WCML?

Believe so, makes logic sense. Although a 13 car Electrostar would be interesting to see.

 

[samuelmorris]

I'm almost certain I saw a 377/6 coupled to a 377/3 the other day. Would this have been right?

 

[swt_passenger]

I'm almost certain I saw a 377/6 coupled to a 377/3 the other day. Would this have been right?

Well it was being discussed last week, with pictures, on the previous page of this thread, post #883 onwards...

 

[samuelmorris]

Ah I must have missed it then, not been following this thread too closely - apologies!

 

[southern442]

Is there a separate thread for the 456's or is that being discussed here?

 

[swt_passenger]

Is there a separate thread for the 456's or is that being discussed here?

There are a couple of 456 threads:

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=93187

This is the main one, you'd have found it on page two of this forum.

This one has a few specific detailed questions as well:

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=98977

...and this:

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=98077

There's possibly more but that should do for now...