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2020 US Presidential Election

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Trump is claiming he's called in the National Guard. The New York Times is saying they were mobilised by request from the Mayor of Washington.
Would makes sense, I doubt it would go down well with trumpers if they knew their leader set the authorities on them
 
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Would makes sense, I doubt it would go down well with trumpers if they knew their leader set the authorities on them
He'll be claiming he did call them in, because right now he's thinking this is not a good look for 4 years time if he wants to run again. Cyncial, me? You bet!
 

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Trump is claiming he's called in the National Guard. The New York Times is saying they were mobilised by request from the Mayor of Washington.
I think they're both right - the Virginia National Guard was mobilised on request of the Mayor of Washington and some other branch of the National Guard was mobilised by the White House. Also, the Maryland National Guard has been sent in by its Republican governor.
 

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I think they're both right - the Virginia National Guard was mobilised on request of the Mayor of Washington and some other branch of the National Guard was mobilised by the White House.

No National Guard stationed immediately within the District so DC's request is being fulfilled by Virginia.
 

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MSNBC and NY Times reporting an improvised explosive device has been located on Capitol Grounds and diffused.
 

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I can but hope this is the wake up call for the republican party that it needs to ditch Trumpism, but I somehow fear that come Jan 21 they'll be back to the behaviour of the last few years despite their calls today
 

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Trumps video is just, sheesh. Words to the effect of: "go home, but remember the election was stolen. Remember, it was a landslide that was stolen, but go home in peace"

Odds on that having the desired effect?
 

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Trumps video is just, sheesh. Words to the effect of: "go home, but remember the election was stolen. Remember, it was a landslide that was stolen, but go home in peace"

Odds on that having the desired effect?
And adds that he loves them and tells them they're very special...
 

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Trumps video is just, sheesh. Words to the effect of: "go home, but remember the election was stolen. Remember, it was a landslide that was stolen, but go home in peace"

Odds on that having the desired effect?

He is a turd on the face of democracy.
 

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Now it appears the Dems have taken both Georgia seats, the Senate is 50:50. Interesting scenario if the House votes to impeach Trump in the next two weeks, and the casting vote goes to ... Mike Pence.
 

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His latest video has twitter putting this declaimers underneath it,
This claim of election fraud is disputed, and this tweet cannot be replied to, Retweeted, or liked due to risk of violence
We have got warning like that under the communication from the leader of a supposed "good" country!
 

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Trumps video is just, sheesh. Words to the effect of: "go home, but remember the election was stolen. Remember, it was a landslide that was stolen, but go home in peace"

Odds on that having the desired effect?

In his words:

President Donald Trump calls for peace

In a recorded message, Donald Trump says: I know your pain, I know you're hurt.

"We had an election stolen from us...but you have to go home now, we have to have peace.

"This was a fraudulent election but we can't play into the hands of these people but we have to have peace."

I’d say unbelievable, but it was always going to go this way.
Parents - Don’t spoil your children. You never know where they might end up!

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Quite surprised that BJ has expressed an opinion on Trump leaving office in a way.
 

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Trumps video is just, sheesh. Words to the effect of: "go home, but remember the election was stolen. Remember, it was a landslide that was stolen, but go home in peace"

Odds on that having the desired effect?
As the BBC's Anthony Zurcher has said on Twitter: "Will the protesters listen to Trump at this point? They're probably not logging on to Twitter at the moment."

Much as I detest the BBC's pandemic coverage, their coverage of the US election and aftermath by Anthony Zurcher, Jon Sopel and Emily Maitlis has been first class.
 

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There is a District of Columbia National Guard: https://dc.ng.mil, however it may be that it was already deployed and overwhelmed.

Yes, I should have added 'armed'. It was agreed yesterday with the DoD that they'd assist during today's protest but in the arena of traffic and crowd management in a non-armed capacity, hence unavailable today for these extra duties.
 

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Seem very restrained the police, i wonder if it would be the same if the protesters storming the Capitol were black?
However, I think a slightly different point is important: when there was a Black Lives Matter demonstration recently there was an enormous police presence in Washington, which may have been over the top but may have ensured that the demonstration was a peaceful one. Today's police presence was inadequate for a Trump-fuelled (mainly) white mob, but why had it been deemed suitable when of course it wasn't?
 

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Much as I detest the BBC's pandemic coverage, their coverage of the US election and aftermath by Anthony Zurcher, Jon Sopel and Emily Maitlis has been first class.
Must agree with you there @43096.
 

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Katty Kay on BBC News just interrupted a Democrat who was literally on the verge of saying both houses of Congress should remove Donald Trump from the presidency with immediate effect. Whoops - bad reporter continually interrupting her interviewees.
 

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Katty Kay on BBC News just interrupted a Democrat who was literally on the verge of saying both houses of Congress should remove Donald Trump from the presidency with immediate effect. Whoops

I can see Trump being impeached in the coming days, with Pence taking the reigns on it. It looks like both Republicans and Democrats have had enough.
 

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Now it appears the Dems have taken both Georgia seats, the Senate is 50:50. Interesting scenario if the House votes to impeach Trump in the next two weeks, and the casting vote goes to ... Mike Pence.
I thought it was 2/3 of votes for an impeachment to pass in the Senate, rather than half.
 

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These nutters need sorting. Insurrection and sedition needs to be dealt with harshly by the authorities. This is an attempt to subvert democracy and simply cant be allowed.
 

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As the BBC's Anthony Zurcher has said on Twitter: "Will the protesters listen to Trump at this point? They're probably not logging on to Twitter at the moment."

Much as I detest the BBC's pandemic coverage, their coverage of the US election and aftermath by Anthony Zurcher, Jon Sopel and Emily Maitlis has been first class.

A very valid point, and certainly seems to be the case that the crowd aren't paying any attention

In addition to unfollowing Trump, Mike Pence has just changed his Twitter banner. Take a closer look.

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What are we supposed to be looking for in the picture? :s

Can always rely on Laura Kuenssberg to try and explain the situation sensibly (not):


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I think that Laura's sources aren't too good outside of number 10!
 
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