2 x 5 car IET units

[truecrimelover]

Can anyone recall any specific occasions where 2 x 5 car units coupled together have operated on the North Cotswolds line? Some people have said it’s been done before in rare circumstances but I’ve never seen it myself

 

[800301]

Can anyone recall any specific occasions where 2 x 5 car units coupled together have operated on the North Cotswolds line? Some people have said it’s been done before in rare circumstances but I’ve never seen it myself

I’ve always been told they can’t do the North Cots because of issues with signal overlaps, I was allocated a 10 car a few months ago and as such I queried it with the TSM and he said yeah you can’t take a 10 car but didn’t give me a reason as to why, the set got swapped, the operational restrictions map we have shows the only thing it shows is no walking route at Great Malvern and Shrub Hill so requires 2 drivers to do the shunt

 

[norbitonflyer]

Can anyone recall any specific occasions where 2 x 5 car units coupled together have operated on the North Cotswolds line? Some people have said it’s been done before in rare circumstances but I’ve never seen it myself

Cu0ld it be because there are stations on that route with platforms too short for more than five cars? (see parallel discussion on the same issue on the Cornish main line, where trains rostered for 2X5 don't call at, eg, Hayle).

 

[172007]

I’ve always been told they can’t do the North Cots because of issues with signal overlaps, I was allocated a 10 car a few months ago and as such I queried it with the TSM and he said yeah you can’t take a 10 car but didn’t give me a reason as to why, the set got swapped, the operational restrictions map we have shows the only thing it shows is no walking route at Great Malvern and Shrub Hill so requires 2 drivers to do the shunt

No walking routes between the units would be correct for Malvern and Shrubb Hill shuntes / turnbacks. WMids often require two drivers for double non gangwayed sets at Shrub Hill.

 

[74A]

Cu0ld it be because there are stations on that route with platforms too short for more than five cars? (see parallel discussion on the same issue on the Cornish main line, where trains rostered for 2X5 don't call at, eg, Hayle).

10 car trains do stop at platforms which take fewer than 5 cars. Bedwyn for example

 

[truecrimelover]

Cu0ld it be because there are stations on that route with platforms too short for more than five cars? (see parallel discussion on the same issue on the Cornish main line, where trains rostered for 2X5 don't call at, eg, Hayle).

I suppose in theory though, they could run a 10 car as far as Shrub Hill?

 

[Clarence Yard]

Track circuit occupation was the issue that stopped any thought of regular 10 car operation. From that decision, there was no need to do the necessary work to the platforms to allow for 10 car operation or put in walking routes at any place that they could turn back.

 

[class ep-09]

No walking routes between the units would be correct for Malvern and Shrubb Hill shuntes / turnbacks. WMids often require two drivers for double non gangwayed sets at Shrub Hill.

There were (are?) authorised walking routes at Shrub Hill (Wylds Lane) and Malvern Wells (single line) to change ends without set being double manned - in HST days .
Recently here is a walking route done for 10 cars IET at Wylds Lane just to change middle cabs but not been officially signed off AFIK and 10 (also 5 and 9) rear clear markers for shunts to / from Hereford Sidings.
As for services operated by 10 cars - except one offs when unit needed rescue or ECS move ( coupled to unit “in service”) I don’t think there were any booked runs ( may be wrong though).
I have heard that when there are HS2 Paddington blockades , 10 cars may be coming that way, and be stabled in Hereford Sidings but not sure the details.