1960s Arrivals/departures from Bradford Forster Square

[Roger S]

Hi there
First time on this forum, not sure if this is in the right place.
I’m looking for a definitive list of arrivals and departures for weekdays and Saturdays in connection with a model I’m building of this station, both local (DMU) services and national ones. Similar to the information provided on boards at the station in question.
If anyone can help or point me in the direction of source material I would be very grateful.

 

[Cowley]

Hi there
First time on this forum, not sure if this is in the right place.
I’m looking for a definitive list of arrivals and departures for weekdays and Saturdays in connection with a model I’m building of this station, both local (DMU) services and national ones. Similar to the information provided on boards at the station in question.
If anyone can help or point me in the direction of source material I would be very grateful.

Welcome to the forum Roger.

Technically yes, it was the correct area. However I’m going to move it into the history section as I think you’ll get more responses there.

 

[30907]

You can start with Timetableworld.com which has various NER/ER public timetables online; there may be working TTs too(for a fee?) which would give Parcels, ECS etc.
You may find the BRCoachingstock group in groups.io worth joining.as it has loads of carriage workings etc.

 

[Magdalia]

The March 1967 timetable change is particularly significant. That's when various Inter City trains switched from Forster Square to Exchange, including the Cornishman and the Devonian.

Another thing that you will need to look at is the history of the Grattans catalogue shopping business that generated a lot of parcels traffic out of Forster Square.

 

[jfollows]

I have working timetables for 4/9/67 to 5/5/68 so can look things up tomorrow if you like. Note from the last post that this will be after the major timetable change.

 

[Bevan Price]

From the Summer 1962 NER timetable.

DMU services were identified by a "D" symbol.
Bradford Forster Square
DMUs to Ilkley ( * - continued beyond Ilkley to Skipton via Bolton Abbey)

07:05SX, 07:48, 08:10*, 08:55SO, 09:50*SO, 10:50SO, 11:50 X, 12:15SO, 12:50*, 13:50, 14:53, 15:50,
16:18SX, 17:05, 17:33SX, 17:53*, 18:50, 19:53, 21:59

DMU arrivals from Ilkley line:
07:01SX, 07:55*, 08:21, 08:51*, 09:19SX, )(:35SO, 10:01, 11:03*, 12:01, 13:01, 14:01, 14:58SX/15:00SO, 15:58,
16:58, 17:58*, 19:08 (* on SX), 19:58*, 21:03*SO, 21:58*

DMUs stations to Leeds
06:45, 07:55, 08:23, 09:00SX, 09:35, 10:35SX/10:39SO, 11:35, 12:35SX/12:38SO, 13:15SO, 13:35, 14:35,
15:35, 16:35, 17:00, 17:36, 18:35, 19:35, 20:40, 21:40. 22:35
(09:00 extended to Scarborough)

DMU arrivals from Leeds
07:35, 08:15, 08:40, 09:22, 10:20SX/10:21SO, 11:15, 12:20, 12:45SO, 13:20 (from Scarborough SO),14:20SO/14:22SX,
15:18, 16:18, 16:53SO, 17:20SO/17:25SX, 17:55, 18:20, 18:44, 19:28 (from Scarborough), 20:17SX/20:18SO, 21:20,
22:15, 23:10

DMUs to Skipton (K = to Keighley only)
07:00, 07:25, 08:05K, 08:35SO, 09:10, 10:10, 10:47, 11:10, 12:10, 13:10, (13:40SX/13:45SO)K, 14:10, 15:10, 16:10, 16:40,
17:40, 18:10, 18:43, 19:15, 20:13, 21:10, 22:30SX/22:46SO

DMU arrivals from Skipton or Keighley:
07:13, 08:03, 08:31, 08:55K, 09:40, 10:40, 11:40, 12:30, 12:40SX/12:52SO, 13:16SO, 13:43, 14:43, 15:06K,
15:43SX/15:48SO, 16:45, 17:38, 18:05, 18:30, 19:45, 20:42, 22:05, 22:39SX/22:41SO

Other departures via Leeds (most would be portions joining longer formations at Leeds)
01:40 Leeds (connection to Glasgow St.Enoch / St. Pancras sleeper)
07:12 London St. Pancras
07:40SO/07:42SX Bristol
07:45SO Bournemouth West
08:50 London St. Pancras
09:05SO Paignton
10:15SX Paignion
10:30 London St. Pancras
12:00 London St. Pancras
16:45 Bristol
17:25 Sheffield
18:05 Derby
20:25FO, Bournemouth WEst
20:45FO Paignton
20:56 Sheffield
21:02SO/21:30SX London St. Pancras

Arrivals via Leeds
03:39 Leeds (connection from St. Pancras)
04:41 Leeds
09:30 Sheffield
11:06SX Birmingham
12:07 Sheffield
14:09SX Bristol
14:33SO Paignton
17:12SX/17:24SO London St. Pancras
18:49SX Paignton / 18:57SO Kingswear
19:17 London St. Pancras
19:54SO Bournemouth West
20:02SO Newton Abbot
20:30SX/20:59SO London St. Pancras
22:27SX/22:37SO London St. Pancras
22:49SO Paignton

Northbound departures (some would join with Leeds portions at Keighley)
02:00 Skipton (connections to St. Pancras/Glasgow sleeper)
04:20 Skipton
08:30 Morecambe
08:46SX Morecambe Prom
09:40SO Morecambe Prom
12:43SO Morecambe P
15:40 Carlisle
17:10SX Morecmbe Prom & Carnforth
17:18 Skipton

Arrivals from North
03:59 Skipton
09:14 Morecambe P
11:15SO Morecambe P
12:04SO Morecambe P
12:48SO Morecambe P
16:10SO Morecambe P
16:47SO Morecambe P
18:54SO/18:55SX Morecambe P
20:15SO/20:24SX Carlisle
22:05 Morecambe P

Many - probably most of the non-DMU turns would have been steam worked in 1962.

 

[jfollows]

For winter 1967/8:

DOWN

3N33 MX a. 01:15 19:50 Parcels from King's Cross
3N14 MX a. 02:10 21:50 Parcels from Nottingham
3N09 MX a. 03:23 21:50 Parcels from Saint Pancras
3M16 d. 04:42 Parcels to Carlisle
3L04 a. 05:35 05:10 Parcels from Leeds City Parcel Depot
2L57 DMU d. 07:06 to Keighley
2L50 SX DMU d. 07:30 to Ilkley
3L50 SO DMU d. 07:30 ECS to Ilkley
2L57 DMU d. 07:56 to Keighley
2L50 DMU d. 08:09 to Ilkley
3L14 MX a. 08:13 07:49 Parcels from Leeds City Parcel Depot
3L57 DMU d. 08:36 ECS to Keighley
2L50 DMU d. 08:53 to Ilkley
2L57 DMU d. 08:57 to Keighley
2L50 DMU d. 09:35 to Ilkley
3L01 SX a. 09:46 09:22 Parcels from Leeds City station
2L57 DMU d. 10:15 to Keighley
2L50 DMU d. 10:45 to Ilkley
3L10 a. 11:35 10:27 Parcels from Neville Hill
2L50 SX DMU d. 11:52 to Ilkley
2L50 SO DMU d. 12:14 to Ilkley
2L57 SO DMU d. 12:21 to Keighley
2L50 DMU d. 12:50 to Ilkley
2L57 DMU d. 13:40 to Keighley
2L50 DMU d. 13:51 to Ilkley
0M00 a. 14:28 13:50 LE from Holbeck Shed
3M00 a. 14:34 14:10 Parcels Leeds City Parcel Depot to Heysham, d. 15:17
2L50 DMU d. 14:57 to Ilkley
2L57 DMU d. 15:40 to Keighley
2L50 DMU d. 16:15 to Ilkley
2L50 DMU d. 17:05 to Ilkley
2L57 DMU d. 17:18 to Keighley
2L50 DMU d. 17:31 to Ilkley
2L57 DMU d. 17:43 to Keighley
2L50 DMU d. 17:55 to Ilkley
2L57 DMU d. 18:45 to Keighley
2L50 SX DMU d. 18:50 to Ilkley
3L57 SX DMU d. 19:05 ECS to Keighley
2L50 SO DMU d. 19:05 to Ilkley
3L19 SX a. 19:55 Parcels from York
2L50 SO DMU d. 19:50 to Ilkley
2L57 DMU d. 20:00 to Keighley
3M12 SX d. 20:39 Parcels to Preston E.L.
2L57 DMU d. 21:00 to Keighley
0B09 SX a. 21:07 20:35 LE from Leeds City Parcel Depot to work 21:28 Parcels to York
0L02 SX a. 22:14 21:49 LE from Leeds City to work 22:30 Parcels to Leeds City PD

UP

3L17 MX d. 04:15 Parcels to Leeds City PD
3N20 MX a. 05:15 04:30 Parcels from Skipton
0L14 MX d. 06:30 LE to Leeds City PD
2L50 SX DMU a. 06:58 06:30 from Ilkley
2L50 DMU a. 07:51 07:22 from Ilkley
2L57 DMU a. 07:55 07:37 from Keighley
2L50 DMU a. 08:24 07:55 from Ilkley
0L01 SX d. 08:28 LE to Leeds City to work 09:22 Parcels to Bradford FS
2L57 DMU a. 08:45 08:28 from Keighley
2L50 DMU a. 08:49 08:20 from Ilkley
2L50 DMU a. 09:13 08:44 from Ilkley
2L57 DMU a. 09:20 09:02 from Keighley
3L57 DMU a. 09:40 09:24 ECS from Keighley
0L14 d. 09:30 LE to Holbeck Shed
2L50 DMU a. 10:02 09:33 from Ilkley
0L01 MO d. 10:35 LE to Holbeck Shed
2L50 DMU a. 11:06 10:37 from Ilkley
2L50 DMU a. 12:01 11:32 from Ilkley
2L57 DMU a. 12:16 11:58 from Keighley
0Z00 d. 12:05 LE to Holbeck Shed
0M29 MO d. 12:30 LE to Leeds City PD
2L50 SX DMU a. 12:57 12:28 from Ilkley
2L57 SO DMU a. 13:08 12:50 from Keighley
2L50 SO DMU a. 13:18 12:49 from Ilkley
2L50 DMU a. 14:18 13:48 from Ilkley
2L50 DMU a. 15:03 14:34 from Ilkley
2L57 DMU a. 15:17 14:59 from Keighley
0Z00 SO d. 15:30 LE to Holbeck Shed
0Z00 SX d. 15:45 LE to Holbeck Shed
2L57 SO DMU a. 16:37 16:19 from Keighley
2L57 SX DMU a. 16:46 16:28 from Keighley
2L50 DMU a. 16:55 16:26 from Ilkley
2L50 DMU a. 17:16 16:47 from Ilkley
2L57 DMU a. 18:00 17:42 from Keighley
2L50 DMU a. 18:16 17:47 from Ilkley
2L57 DMU a. 18:55 18:36 from Keighley
2L50 DMU a. 18:59 18:30 from Ilkley
3L24 SO d. 19:26 Parcels to Leeds City PD
2L57 DMU a. 19:44 19:26 from Keighley
2L50 SO DMU a. 20:13 19:44 from Ilkley
3L22 SX DMU a. 20:18 19:55 Parcels from Keighley
0L21 SX a. 20:44 LE from Skipton
2L50 SO DMU a. 21:02 30:33 from Ilkley
1L28 SX d. 20:55 Parcels to Leeds City station
2L50 DMU a. 21:25 21:19 from Shipley
3S33 SX d. 21:15 Parcels to Edinburgh (via Leeds)
1L00 SX d. 21:29 Parcels to Leeds City station
3L24 SX d. 21:40 Parcels to Leeds City PD
2L57 DMU a. 22:28 22:10 from Keighley
3L02 SX d. 22:30 Parcels to Leeds City PD

Lots of parcels traffic as noted above.

 

[Roger S]

To say I’m thrilled by the response would be an huge understatement . Bevan you’ve given me exactly what I needed, as 1962, before the cross country routes went to Exchange, is what I would prefer to model.
However, the parcels traffic info is also superb.
Many many thanks to all who’ve replied, and also to the moderator for moving this to the right area.