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    West Mids nTrain Vs 7 day season

    I commute from Warwick to Birmingham. A 7-day season ticket between the stations is £39.20 whereas a 7 day nTrain Warwick to West Midlands all zones is only £37.80. As far as I can tell there are no restrictions on this ticket which the 7 day season doesn't have. This ticket allows me to make...
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    Will it really arc in this situation?

    You or anything you are in contact with (ladder, tools etc. ) must keep over 2.75m away from live parts of the OLE. Not entirely sure but from the picture I reckon he probably had a fair safety margin from the wires and was unlikely to be at risk from the OLE whilst standing on the ladder. But...
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    Revenue Protection Officer Incident

    Can anyone shed any light on why they are charging for a ticket for the whole journey from Derby to Notts when the OP stated they had a valid ticket for the Derby to Beeston portion? Surely they should only be charging for the admin, resource cost and the price of the outstanding Beeston to Nott...
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    FGW Buy before you board policy

    I'd be particularly unimpressed if this happened to me. 15+ minutes being written up by an RPI, plus extra time having to deal with responding to letters and making payment for the fare which the RPI could have just arranged to take there and then? I'd be sorely tempted to bill the TOC for...
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    ELR chainages - how to find chainage at a given location

    Hi Is there a way of finding out the ELR chainage for a given location on a rail line? i.e. at a specific grid ref. I have the Omnicom track locator app on my phone which finds your position via GPS then gives the chainage for that location. But there doesn't seem to be a way of using the...
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    Revenue protection took my details - Unstaffed station

    Yes. Provided you then pay cash at the first opportunity to do so. Seems pretty clear to me. If you had to card or cash just because you were carrying it imagine how impractical it would be to be able to use rail vouchers if your local station was TVM only. There are so many hypothetical...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    Just got a third letter from Transport Investigations and they are willing to drop it for an admin fee of £76.50. Frankly p***ed off about the cost but I'll grudgingly pay up for the peace of mind in bringing this to a close. Having read this and their previous letters it really seems...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    Ok - can't really argue with case law. But taking that definition of intent - what is the practical difference between RoRA prosecution, Byelaw prosection or just issuing a penalty fare? As by this definition not having the correct ticket (for whatever reason at all) a traveller is showing...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    Hi again Sent off letter pretty much as you all advised setting out the details of what happened. Have got another letter in return "Ref xxxxxx 'Travel on a train without a valid ticket contrary S5.3.a Regulations of Railways 1889 Thank you for your letter in respect of this case, we...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    Moor Street ticket office. Sorry, I don't really understand the second paragraph. I only told the RPI about the running when he asked why I had bought a return from Hatton in the morning but was returning to Warwick in the evening. Plus I was still carrying my trainers, etc. --- old post...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    To clarify. Vast majority of my journeys are warwick-brum return so they get bought at Warwick, or cov- brum- Warwick so they all get bought at cov. The other journeys are really rare, only every couple of months or so but yes, they get bought at brum. There are no barriers at Warwick. I...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    But I've never claimed to buy those tickets on the train. When I've done that before I've always had the correct ticket before joining. That may have got lost in the telling here though i made sure to clearly state it in my letter. --- old post above --- --- new post below --- Sure, and i...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    Maybe not relevant to my last journey but surely relevant background to prove that it was a single error rather part of a pattern of regular evasion. The letter I've been sent does not specify whether they intend to pursue a byelaw or RoRa prosecution so I would have thought that this evidence...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    Ok. I'll accept that. But indulge me with a hypothetical case. What if I had got off at Hatton and: a)Left the station giving the CCTV camera a cheery wave on the way past. Went back in and got the next train to Warwick. I've checked the timetable and the next train I could have caught...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    Its a two car train that stops at a number of unmanned stations. Very very rarely have i made a journey on that service without a ticket check. If you don't see the conductor it means they are hiding in one of the cabs and god only knows what they get up to in there. The last time i tried to...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    That's kind of what I'm getting at though. I should have alighted at Hatton....then what? Get back on the same train? get the next train? How long do I have to wait before it counts as a new journey rather than an illegal continuation of the original one? Would I have to stay there overnight...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    I'd like to know what actually constitutes "a journey"?. Is there a set definition? Yorkie mentions having to leave and re-enter the station - Hatton is tiny so it would be possible to get off the train, leave the station, go and do some star jumps on Station road then run back onto the same...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    Thanks for the response. Not exactly what i wanted to hear though. I understood that prosecutions were usually reserved for deliberate/persistent offences whereas genuine mistakes were usually covered by penalty fares. A three figure sum seems punitive and massively disproportionate to the...
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    Notice of intention to prosecute

    Hi all I have received a notice of intention to prosecute but I think it is unfair. How should I go about dealing with it? I frequently but irregularly commute from Warwick to Birmingham, somewhere between 1-4 days a week so it isn't cost effective to buy season tickets. I also...

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