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It's very much personal choice but I would do the sort of thing you describe - the benefit really is the flexibility to stay on and swap to the tube at Farringdon if the connection doesn't work.
Similarly no-one is saying I would double back every day, it's just an option for when it works and...
Apparently not - easily got a seat every day so far
Which of course makes me think was it necessary to provide all these extra services in the Thameslink project and consequently take away the fast service from Welwyn Garden City in peak times!
Definitely… we will have a new arrival starting nursery later in the year and I will find it very difficult to do 7.30am drop-off and get the 0738 southbound, it’s more realistic to catch either the 0740 northbound to double-back or 0740 stopper to Moorgate.
Also it’s another good option when...
No-one knows. Consensus seems to be that it was an attempt to use productively what would otherwise have been pathing time, but it makes things worse in the event of disruption.
Similar to the Alexandra Palace stop!
I even met someone who uses New Barnet station who thought it was a weird...
Ok so I think you're saying there is always some chance of a delay hitting right at the last moment so I run the risk of that happening if I choose to travel by that route!
The other thing I can do is just look for that train approaching to make sure it is indeed approaching...
Hi, that document is for Oyster rather than Contactless. In any event point 3.16 appears to deal with break of journey and leaving stations, neither of which is happening in this case.
In any event there are definitely ways of buying valid tickets for this intended journey (such as a...
Prior to mid-December 2025, the contactless area went no further north than Welwyn Garden City.
Since then, it now goes further north as far as Hitchin on the main line and Baldock on the Kings Lynn line.
So I believe it is acceptable to tap in at Welwyn Garden City and then take any route...
Hi, since the contactless area was expanded further north, I have found this to be the best commuting option for me.
0740 Welwyn Garden City to Cambridge, alight Welwyn North 0742
0744 Welwyn North to London Kings Cross, arrives 0803
(Compares very well to 0738 Welwyn Garden City to London...
Is that just an oversight and we should expect those tickets to be withdrawn at some point?
The service is abysmal - yet again today the 0753 stopper to Moorgate was allowed to proceed ahead of the 0751 to Kings Cross so it took forty minutes to get to Finsbury Park, compare to fifteen minutes...
I was told today at WGC ticket office that the off-peak carnet tickets will not be offered after 6th December, is this true and is this part of this change?
(Although they did say the same thing a couple of years ago and it didn’t seem to happen)
Annoying especially given the service downgrades
Everyone on this forum seems to think both the New Barnet and Alexandra Palace stops are bad ideas, I certainly do
The Alexandra Palace prevents any chance of getting signalled on to the fast line to avoid disruption, I appreciate it would not always happen but sometimes the positions of trains...
It’s with effect from Monday 15th December and it’s morning peak only, 0708/0738/0808 etc
I looked on Open Train Times and one of these is coded 2R11
On another topic, will people from WGC really take the 0738 to arrive KGX at 0810 (supposedly) guaranteed to get stuck behind any disruption on...
Yes but that all compares to unscheduled stops, if it were allowed for in the timetable properly then it could be ok
Given the mild disruption shown following unscheduled stops, I reckon that does make the case that it could be timetabled
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Haha ok thanks
Sadly I think any sort of...
Do you mean platform 3 or platform 2?
We are only really hoping for something for morning peak on platform 2 which I’ve never known to be blocked and there is also the reserve platform 1
Well I would say 4/5/6 minutes can go either way
7 or more and definitely Moorgate goes first
The most frustrating part of that is that station staff are always unable to say which train will be signalled ahead
Yes they do usually hold Moorgate either at the platform or just after the bridge so the faster train can go first
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Ok if it has been there all that time, do we know why it was not previously reflected in the track access agreements?
Thanks for posting all of that. Yes the pattern seems to be that if two consecutive peak "fast" trains from WGC to KGX are cancelled, then that is enough to trigger a faster service to be stopped for us, I was not aware that they would stop at Knebworth and Welwyn North as well (which seems odd...
I did see that and considered that possibility myself
The strange thing is that that 0522 call at WGC exists already and appears not to be covered by the previous access rights agreement unless I'm missing something somewhere?
So yes perhaps they applied for the access rights just to...
Ok fair enough re Hatfield, and that doesn't stop us getting on to the fast line at Marshmoor
Can't say I agree re Potters Bar, as that is materially closer to London, and therefore I think that is a part of the trade-off that always meant historically that they were not accommodated on our...
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