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Didn't miss the point.......my point is this.....refurbing 7 units properly will take 6-9 months depending on the spec..... How long will it take to complete 122 units that so desperately need completely new interiors? Especially as the are NO PLANS in the 29 months pathetic to refurb any...

well they cant the DMU fleet....thats threadbare as it is......will they cut the Cl 317s recently displaced by the introductions of the Cl 379s????

oh and I forgot to say thank you for the clogs at least cleaning the 321/4s........the poor souls travelling in them were getting fed up with being bitten by the millions of fleas that are living in the seats..... I think National Express call it "value added service"

Dear Santa I know everyone moans up north (and rightfully so) but they all seem to forget that down south in the Greater Anglia area we have some of the worst trains on the planet (with the exception of Mongolia) courtesy of National Disgrace East Anglia....... Can we please have for...

Good! Anything to wipe the words National Express off the railway map of this country can only be a good thing for their long suffering passengers!

National Express were effectively bankrupt 2 years ago when Bowker left under a cloud...... All the announced NXEA improvements were binned immediately and the only driver for NX Group over the 2 years has been PROFIT! Stuff customers....they dont care!

I have to say I have not come across any other TOC that has EVER spawned 2 "I hate NXEA" websites and attracted such a constant and well deserved public critisism as NXEA!!!!!

Mr Chivers and Mr Phillips have successfully succeded in taking the "GREAT" out of the "Great Eastern Mainline"....... They are pure racketeers.......promises, spin, flim flam which have all turned out to be pure LIES!!!!! Trains that are truely appalling.......we could start an entire new...

Try NXEA.......they are up there with old, filthy, unrefurbished, late and overcrowded trains! But I think they trump Northern by treating their customers with complete and utter contempt!

extending the Oyster zone out to Shenfield has to be in preparation for Crossrail!

the tender documents clearly stated that this was a management contract only, with the government taking all the risk regarding revenues......I think these rumours regarding £400m in premium payments are a bit off the mark. In the original tender docs it stated that bidders were to submit...

"rapid"....mmmmm......a bit like "express".......that might open themselves to same kind of ridicule that the delusional PR department of NXEA found themselves in on a daily basis!

Let's face it.....and this is the really important thing...... Look at the current arrangements: Turnover £500m appx Premium payment to Gov £100m appx Profit for NX £20m appx The new arrangement is a Management Contract only......meaning that out of the £500 the gov will get appx...

Agree, but at least you have 365s in the main.....we have 96 units on the GE mainline forming the bulk of all commuter services......

Given the very short nature of this contract I doubt anything will be done about the rolling stock! The interiors of the ex LM 321/4 will get new seat covers but it appears that the "nettle" of bringing the interiors of these late 80s second generation trains into the 21st centuary has not been...