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Could these be for the addition services they have picked up in Plymouth and Cornwall from September?

First did run X80 for years then in 2013 Stagecoach launched competition Gold service. First withdrew their X80 almost immediately using the resource on new Plymouth services 3a to Peverell, Pennycross and Honicknowle and 6 to Efford and Laira to compete with Plymouth Citybus as part of a bus...

It was the X80 in First days

Some good things here and also not on the list above , is the addition of Sunday service on 1a from Citycentre to Derriford plymouth. Only thing I notice is the X1 withdrawal means there is no service for DHSB and DHSG students as Citybus withdrew their 104 a few years ago? Is there a...

Yes all + tickets are going if you don't buy them tomorrow in advance! You would need to buy £10 Explorer instead

Yeah i am surprised they didn't do it in January tbh. Mind you it was only 18 months or so ago my fare here to city was £2.40 return on Stagecoach, now it's £2.20 each way so quite a jump. Those who come in from outside city and need day rider for any reason see a big jump from £8.50 to £10...

Well my fare going up 20p to £2.20 in Plymouth is one thing, although the withdrawal of returns here in January was the biggy. Worst is the poor soles whom live in Plymouth plus or Exeter plus zones whom like North Devon have to stump up tenner for SW Explorer now with plus tickets withdrawn

Oh no... why? Lol

First have lost Truro and Penwith college contracts to Go Cornwall https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/first-bus-loses-major-truro-10234635

I think the sightseeing one ended as far as it being hop on/hop off in 2022/23. The stagecoach 122 open top was only last year I believe. They pulled it because of roadworks on coastal route between Paignton and Torquay. Rather predictably it hasn't returned.

Unfortunately yes. Before covid you could use your Stagecoach Explorer on this one from Paignton to Totnes too

It really is a shame they killed off the full torbay 122 open top service. I can remember travelling up from Plymouth with our Explorer tickets to travel on this excellent service when my son was younger. He absolutely loved it!

First Plymouth I believe in the main with the odd Western Greyhound

Yes thank you. Sorry I think my original post may have been worded badly. I never meant they were deliberately running the ops into the ground but merely managers not locally making decisions that is effectively running it into the ground and from that unless something major changes, dare I...

Personally and sadly I think First are not interested in South West anymore, particularly Cornwall and are just running it into the ground (close down mode I think they called it in Plymouth). I think the loss of all the college contract work and reportedly more losses to come will sadly be the...

I wonder if they are getting ready to bid for the Cornwall council network when it comes up in 2027. I could see a repeat of Plymouth from 10 years ago where Stagecoach buy out depots from First and take on what routes they feel work for them commercially

Stagecoach have won contract to operate all Cornwall college contracts from September off First Kernow. They have also won all Callywith college contracts from same date off Plymouth citybus. Truro and Penwith results are due soon, I wonder if they can make it a hatrick? Either way this...

Really? Thanks for info. So that's all Plymouth citybus/go cornwall Callywith college routes to Stagecoach. They are doing well on tenders having recently picked up loads of Plymouth city Council routes and Devon county ones too, as well as some night services in Plymouth too

Have Stagecoach won the lot? All run from Plymouth? Whom won the cornwall council school tenders out of interest?

What I meant is First don't operate services in Plymouth (since 2015) other than some college runs . So unusual to see First on route assessment in Plymouth at all