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Yes, but even then there's still more declouding to do. 1599852656 I didn't say it does need flattening, I said that the worry is that it will.

It feels inevitable at this point. And then it'll be Groundhog Day about whether or not we should have gone through with it, because we can't ever commit to just doing one thing.

The worry is that the curve will need to be flattened again. I do agree that a stripped-back, conciser, CLEARER set of messages would accomplish more in reducing transmissions than the present revolving door of absolute slosh, even if that'd mean relaxing things. Nobody knows what the hell...

I deferred entry. Hoping this'll have cleared up by next September.

At this point, it honestly feels like anything, that anybody does, or that anyone suggests, is just going to be rife with uncertainty. The government will do their own thing. They might wobble and waver; they may well pull out, or readjust, or do one thing or another. Whatever they do probably...

The X99 Inverness-Scrabster used to be bookable via that website. I don't know if it still is, or indeed whether that outdated site is a factor in dropping usage levels on the X99 among other things (unpopular coaches, timetable slashed, takes an extra hour to Thurso). In any case, the Far North...

Three now. What a tragedy.

It would've been all hands on deck already today. The flooding in and around Stonehaven is pretty severe - I think it's possible that trains would have stopped running at some point during the day, had this not happened.

Agreed, neither do I. They'll be made though at some point in time though by someone or other, which isn't nice to think about. Absolutely. This is an ongoing incident.

This will probably be used in the future in coach stock vs multiple unit crashability comparisons, like Grayrigg was. Not the nicest thing to think about if I'm honest. It's very easy to imagine scenarios (of course it's all covid-conditional) where that train was much busier. Let's hope that...

I'm inclined to use @WelshBluebird's two words now...that's horrific...

If it's correct that there were only six passengers and/or reduced crew presence...that is fairly fortunate, although that says nothing of those who have been severely injured, or worse. Would the 06:38 normally be a busy train?

It's not exactly an office job, is it? Maybe I'm just a bit shocked. I've been through Carmont quite a few times, and it's a stretch of the line I know well, so my mind is running amok this morning. All the same...if you're a car driver, you're driving yourself and maybe your family. Only taxi...

Oh no, this is terrible. A tragedy. Thoughts are with those affected, especially who are fighting for their lives. There's something chilling about the thought that the driver, who is thought to have passed away, was just driving a train and had called at the seaside town of Stonehaven a few...

Some bids announced so far: • Consett to Newcastle (I'm assuming via MetroCentre and Ebchester) • Wadebridge to Bodmin Parkway • Hawes to Garsdale • Beverley to York • Dinnington to Doncaster • reopened station at Ferryhill • reopened station at Charfield • upgraded Par to Newquay

Many happy returns to the forum! It's massively unusual to see a traditional web forum continue to thrive (and GROW) fifteen years after its inception; I hope RailUK continues to buck the trend. As a discussion platform it's pretty great; as a resource, it's absolutely essential.

Well, it's true; you can't second-guess a populist. But given the current situation, surely they'll just handwave it for now?

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