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The Navigation Road crossing is used by Timperley circular bus routes 285 and 286, so these would need to be diverted. In Hale, similar circular bus routes 283 and 284 have been diverted permanently in recent years away from the Hale station level crossing.
That solution has been dead in the water for at least the last 30 years, during which the airport at Lulsgate has expanded massively. The final nail in its coffin is the election of a Plaid Cymru government in Wales whose ultimate aim is Welsh independence. A new airport in South Wales that...
Fantasy!! Where's the money to finance such massive infrastructure enhancements? Manchester is not London. Some limited expansion of and improvements to Metrolink, and completion of TRU, is all that Greater Manchester can reasonably expect in the next 20 years in terms of rail investment...
They could just be put, without any need for conversion, directly onto XC's Manchester-Birmingham sector, to be operated by WMR/LNWR as 8-coach trains, to replace the Voyagers.
Loganair appear to have come to a similar conclusion regarding their PSO-supported London to Dundee route, which is planned to be withdrawn from 18th September 2026.
It is a reasonable proposal as there is no realistic prospect of this line ever reopening, given the massive costs of doing so for the limited potential benefit.
Why?
None of D&G's routes are high frequency (every 12 minutes or more often) and there are several low bridges (such as in Macclesfield) that preclude the use of double deck buses.
They are only warranted, given their higher capital and running costs, where extra capacity is needed for much...
One consequence would be a further reduction in cross-boundary public transport connectivity between East Cheshire and Greater Manchester, which is already poor.
IMO, it would be better just to extend the existing Northern service from Manchester via Styal to Stoke, and add an hourly stop at...
I have several questions regarding this proposed service from the West Midlands to Manchester Airport:
Why will it run via Stoke, given that this will lead to slow journey times from Stafford and the West Midlands?
Will it be a replacement for the existing Northern service via Styal, and if so...
Current bus services between the Trafford Centre and suburban destinations in Trafford and elsewhere are currently every 20 minutes at best (route 23) and mostly half-hourly, indicating that the demand isn't there for an orbital Metrolink service via the Trafford Centre. The only frequent bus...
I would simply extend the 5 tph Bury service, which currently terminates at Piccadilly, to Marple Rose Hill. This would not require any further capacity in the city centre.
The Manchester-Sheffield fast service runs via Hazel Grove and Stockport.
There would be adequate capacity on a single track heavy rail line between Romiley and Marple Bridge Junction for 2tph passenger service (Manchester to New Mills and beyond, via Guide Bridge) and 1tph freight path. That...
The thread title is about improving Metrolink, not extending it to places outwith Greater Manchester such as Warrington.
The most straightforward things to do would be to:
mitigate some of the marked speed restrictions
buy some 4 coach trams for routes where double trams are currently...
As a local occasional user of service 263, it does not require double deck buses for most of the route, between Old Trafford and Altrincham, where it parallels the frequent Metrolink tram service on the former Manchester, South Junction and Altrincham railway line. There were only a handful of...
I note the previous discussion about the frequency of route 42A being considered inadequate at only half hourly. My recollection (confirmed by checking on Timetable World) is that historically the route from Reddish to Didsbury via Heaton Moor (numbered 9 pre-SELNEC) was only half hourly in the...
Historically, in the days when the North Western Road Car Company ran services 31/31A, jointly with Manchester Corporation, from Manchester to Bramhall via Wilmslow Road (the predecessor of route 42B), between 1615 and 1740 on Mondays to Fridays, and for the schools extra at 1540 from Rusholme...
Further changes a few months ago have provided mitigation for the worst of the issues that were created by TfGM franchising and the introduction of the Bee Network in this area on 5th January 2025, but the through service between Altrincham and Warrington is still only hourly.
The arrangements for and provision of cross-boundary services from Greater Manchester into East Cheshire and Warrington deteriorated significantly when the third phase of the Bee Network/bus franchising was introduced by TfGM on 5th January 2025.
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