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Have you received the verification letter? If so can you post a copy here, with personal details redacted.
If you dealing with TfL then you have a big problem. For Freedom Pass misuse they will seek to prosecute, especially as this is the second time you’ve been caught. Whilst you are doing...
The sentence around what you’re prepared to offer will need tweaking. They hold all the cards. You should be asking them if they’d be prepared to offer you an out of court settlement, not telling them what you’re prepared to do.
There were a few Sundays last year when it was used for regular service during engineering works. And very occasionally will get used for short-notice diversions to get around obstructions / signal failures in West Ham area, but these are very rare, and very short notice.
Is another grounds for appeal the fact that the PF notice has been issued from London Bridge to Loughborough Junction? Trains from London Bridge don’t serve Loughborough Junction - it’s not a direct route, only possible with a change of trains.
£120 is at the low end of what we tend to see for admin fees.
if it goes to court, the train company will still pursue the same admin fee (or even more) and the court will also impose a fine and surcharge. so much more expensive, and a criminal conviction too.
Presumably there are more pages to what you’ve received. You will have been summoned to court for the single offence where you were caught, and they are saying that the’ve identified a further 145 cases. They’re asking you to admit to those 145 cases (and pay the £253 for them), which would...
Paddington to Harrow & W is priced entirely as a TfL journey (either via Bakerloo Line, or via Euston and London Overground).
Paddington to Alexandra Palace is ‘mixed-mode’ as it includes non-TfL service. These are more expensive, as you’ve discovered.
That scan could enable them to start an investigation… if they were to look at your Trainline account are they likely to find older journeys that look a bit suspect?
If they do contact you in future about it, come back to this forum first for further advice. Don’t reply or even acknowledge any...
If you’ve paid the penalty fare that’s probably the end of it. Assuming you didn’t show them any ticketing app then they haven’t really got much to investigate from.
But your details are in their system now. They may not be as generous if there’s another incident.
You might be overthinking, but we need more information to be able to advise.
What train operating company stopped you? At which station? What ticket did you hold? Was it a fine, or a penalty fare? What was wrong with your ticket - why were you stopped?
If you only touched in and out at Langley I think you’d be charged two separate maximum fares. Would you be touching in or out anywhere else on the journey.
Not sure there are any direct trains between West Drayton and Shenfield, but there’s definitely Terminal 5 to Shenfield.
If you’re defining “longest” by journey time, then also consider Epping to West Ruislip or Chesham to Aldgate.
Finally, how about Elstree & Borehamwood going all the way...
If the card was blocked how was he getting through the barrier each time?
And it’s not really a first offence. First time caught, maybe, but committing the offence for 5-6 months.
TfL are notoriously difficult to deal with. Unless you have a solicitor (costing maybe £600-£800) they usually...
What do you mean by ”using his wrong debit card”. Surely if he’s using any debit card to travel, then as long as he’s touching in and out at the barriers then a fare will be charged?
Or do you mean he’s been using someone else’s card, such as a Freedom Pass, Over-60s Pass, or Zip Card?
I recall doing a trip on an HST in the late 1980s or early 1990s, winter Sunday, from Inverness to Kings Cross which ran via Aberdeen - I think that was the scheduled route for the up service on winter Sunday mornings, with the Highland Main Line closed. To add extra spice, it was then diverted...
Did you complete your journey on a later train, or did you abandon your journey (and not travel)? If the former, claim delay repay from TPE. If the latter, claim a refund from Uber.
Have you received any previous correspondence regarding this incident? It would be extremely unusual, almost unheard of, for the first communication to be Court papers.
Ok, so that you can receive best advise you’re going to need to provide more information.
We need to know all relevant facts in order to assist you, including, for example:
The stations where you actually started & finished your journey
The stations where you changed trains (if applicable);
If...
Have you received this in connection with a specific journey where you’ve been stopped for a potential ticketing irregularity? Or is it a letter that’s arrived completely unprompted?
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