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Loco-hauled 442s? Hat, coat, etc

A cause for Jubileetion, surely? But not Central to the main argument on this thread.

Use a member of a modern go-anywhere class for which they currently don't have enough work or bring back into service a rusting heap? Hmmm.... I agree that it would be great to see more use of electric traction, whether new or pre-loved, but in this example the sums will never add up...

Agree with all the above esp the bit in bold - makes my little boy's day to have his own ticket. Forgive my ignorance but I hadn't heard this term before - it's obvious what it means from reading the posts above (I think!) but why is sounding the full horn referred to as 'blowing up'?

So where's the queue of operators desperate to get hold of them? So what are you? An expert? An ace? Jedi prince perhaps?

Very good Dave!:wink: 'twas ever thus. One only has to look at defence planning and spending. Remember the Nimrod AEW3 saga which was being played out at the same time as the APT? The only thing worse than that would be to spend billions of pounds on another Nimrod project two decades...

Very good point. So, what's Gillette's new razor called? The Mach 4(42)?:lol: Or is that the number of baked beans in a can...

That was my general idea - I was aware of the different service frequency but simply hadn't addressed it! I wonder if increasing the Shrewsbury-Crewe frequency, plus the increased range of direct journeys which my suggestion would create, might lead to a worthwhile increase in passenger...

I wasn't actually - I wasn't proposing any change to services to Gobowen, any more than I was to Hereford or Stockport. My point was, rather than treating the three all-English ATW services separately (I know that the Shrewsbury-Wolverhampton one is Sundays-only, but LM provide the same for the...

Amen to that! But how much of a drama is this in the grand scheme of things? How many people currently travel from Gobowen to English stations other than Chester and Shrewsbury, and how many of them would stop using the train if the direct service was pulled? As an alternative idea, why...

Interesting post. Looks like the 442s are off to Eire, Belgium or Holland then! :D

And was obvious. They don't want to lose the franchise because that would seriously damage their ability to make money, both then and in the future. Yet while doing your excellent work, you didn't realize that the reason for the bidding was that the bidders were trying to make money? Oh...

Well of course it is - so they can make money. Well done for another statement of the bleeding obvious - but losing money was not the intention at the time they tried hard to win the franchise! Takes one to know one, it would seem...

But since when was Liverpool near the West Midlands? LM serve Crewe already so adding Crewe to Chester (and Crewe to Shrewsbury, another station also served by the LM franchise) is not a bad idea.

Disagree. Their plan - along with all other bidders - is simply to make as much money as possible. This is exactly the same as last time.

Well done to Virgin, but I wonder how many other north Shropshire people heading to London drive to Stafford and take one of the hourly non-stop services. The 50-minute drive is more than compensated for by the speed and frequency of the service. I suspect there are also people who go via...

Surely the other benefit of a refurb is time taken? Even a thorough refurb would presumably take much less time than building, testing, driver training on a new unit (assuming that you can't replace the old unit with an identical new build - and why would you replace like for like if the old...

Good for you. But most people simply want to get from A to B as efficiently as possible - which Carlisle to Glasgow via Newcastle isn't. Therefore the majority of people would rather a bus service was provided.

How do you know? Did you interview all of them? Back on topic, we will need to wait until more information is released before jumping to conclusions as to why noone helped the poor victim. Possible options: - The assaults were carried out where noone else could see (vestibule, toilet?)...

Where are you from? Mogadishu? Therefore it doesn't really matter if the line is closed! The people who live there don't feel they need the railway, anyone who wants to visit Stranraer (that's right, both of them) can get there by road, and there is no freight potential. Why not pull the...