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Long distance in both directions from London so never a local service, bi-mode or multimode to suit the power available.

Agreed the proposed tunnel all the way from OOC to St P was a duff idea and an afterthought, so it was rightly ditched. But the brief required the HS1 connection, and HS2 effectively ignored it. In saying that Euston work I'm responding to comments on the original thread and widespread reports...

Thanks for your comments and apologies to any ladies - I didn't know there were any on this thread as most of you conceal your gender behind noms-de-plume. Next stop: Waterloo new 420m island plat under Station Approach and W'loo East. Then Heathrow, Cardiff, Plymouth, Bournemouth, Southampton...

Moderator note: Split from https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/possible-hs2-euston-station-de-scoping.213574 You gentlemen seem to be driving forwards to the inevitable conclusion that HS2 will not be fit for purpose and never could have been, ill-conceived as it was as a segregated railway...

Notice to proceed with HS2 has been issued today.

The last time I looked (and I haven't been near a train this year) 2 of the 3tph Avanti Euston-Birmingham ran past New St, one to Edinburgh/Glasgow alternate hours, the other a 2x5-car Voyager running on to Shrewsbury. The capacity of New St will be increased when all services run through...

1. The Economic Case for HS2 assumes the 3 Pendolinos per hour New St to Euston are cut to 1tph and it would extend to Liverpool. It's by cutting services like that they calculate a saving of £11bn. But West Midlands Combined Authority have bid to keep all 3. 2. Large proportions of HS2...

There must be a reason why Network Rail proposed to convert the southern region DC to 25KV OLE. Though that's gone quiet since the GW electrification cost over 3x the budget.

The Murco oil train to Bedworth has stopped running but the path has to be retained for a possible new operator. Until the oil depot is demolished (not on the cards) it's difficult to extinguish the historic right for the path.

I always said that electrification didn't give us any extra miles of track or extra trains, so the money was better spent on other things. Then we had the rapid rise in oil price and I was pleased when the gov'ment announced extensive electrification including the Electric Spine (Southampton...

From the start HS2 was planned to have ballast in the open and slab track in tunnels, mainly to reduce construction depth in tunnels but also to avoid maintenance there. It may have been the increases in the proportion of tunnel, plus the problem of differential movement at each transition from...

Slab track costs about twice as much as ballasted track to build, but saves on maintenance - until it needs replacement, as the Germans have found. Track would have made up about 10% of the overall cost of HS2. Question is, where's the extra construction money coming from and when was the...

This would have the advantage of significantly reducing the footprint of the central London terminus, at the cost of a few (tens of) miles of extra track. [/QUOTE} The OP is absolutely right that terminal stations are inefficient and it's better for trains to run through. We have grown up...

In answer to Elecman, the 109lb/yd rail used from the 1960's was the flat-bottom rail pioneered in USA, while for low-speed track the norm was 95lb/yd bullhead rail. Further, the greater dispersion of the metal from the neutral axis in flat-bottom rail gives more bending resistance than an equal...

I'm surprised anyone from Sheffield of all places should be worried about changes of level. What's wrong with stairs, escalators and lifts? Even more surprised that a Sheffielder should object to a high speed station after they lost Meadowhall. MML cutting is 20m wide - adequate for 2 tracks and...

The platforms won't cross the road, but the passenger bridge will. That allows passengers to walk off the end of the plats, across Moor St on a bridge and down via stairs, escalators and lifts to the north side of Moor St without walking through road traffic. Curzon St station will remain at...

"The nearest part of the Midland line to Victoria is about 400m away" - MML passes close to the ends of the Victoria platforms. "a connection can be made to the Derby line towards New Street" - yes, and HS2 should connect into New St. Curzon St station is planned to bridge over Moor St Queensway...

Figures taken from Supporting Report - Economic Case appraisal - full network https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/hs2-economic-case-october-2013 Last page under "Classic line savings". The first figure is for phase 1, the second includes phase 2. Priced at 2011 so the figures will be...

Yes, I live in Coventry and I'm grateful to Davibob for admitting the city will lose out from HS2 while others are making excuses. Ironic that it's had the biggest passenger growth outside London. But the only city? What about Stoke on Trent, Wolverhampton, Walsall, Derby, Sheffield, Wakefield...

Trying to verify this. Difficult when XC website recommends taking their train Derby arr. NS 07.12, dep. NS 07.04 to L Spa! TfWM's Traveline site has a XC timetable completely different from XC's own. I give in. If we can't get additional through services to Kenilworth because of WCML...