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Just make the trains longer! Hebden Bridge to Leeds is already 4tph one via Mirfield. Then 1tph does Halifax to Leeds and Hull. Another 1tph does Huddersfield Bradford. And on top of all that lot you have Grand Central. The Calder Valley is absolutely saturated with tiny loss making trains.

Where would all these trains go after New Mills? Hope Valley capacity enhancement should mean longer trains not even more of them.

The franchise agreements is based on assumptions about the infrastructure. If the infrastructure changes agreed haven't been delivered they are change mechanism. They are not bound to uphold the timetable if infrastructure changes they are not responsible for hasn't happened.

I don't accept your reasonable deduction re. Bradford to the Airport. The Northern Franchise agreement and ITT only reference CS5, assuming they have the same meanings across all 3 documents and it is not for a NR document to decide if something supports a DfT timetable or not, especially if...

It appears that the realisation the service doesn't work post Ordsall has come about from experience since it opened rather than some undelivered enhancements.

In the ITT bidders were told not to expect the TP upgrade during the franchise. The NW electrification while late has been delivered. The missing enhancements seem to have been those removes by the Hendy Review therefore didn't form part of the planning or bidding. If they weren't promised...

19% CASL at the moment and planned cancellations on 7 lines in the NW.

GRIP 3 is only option section. It sounds a long way behind being part of the Northern franchise. During 2014 the various schemes have been combined as a Northern Programme including various depot works, Ordsall, the NW electrification and a few oddities like Maghull North. The Rail Technology...

Northern Franchise ITT asked bidders to assume as per a mysterious Bidders Infrastructure Assumptions Document that a package called Northern Hub / NW Electrification will be in place by Dec 17 (CS5). A number of other enhancements packaged as North Transpennine Electrification were uncertain...

Piccadilly 15/16 has never been at even an advanced planning stage. Where / how did it become part of the Northern TSR let alone becoming a missing deliverable as soon as late 2019? The Franchise itself is only about 3 years old. Political promises are worthless, it is contracts that matter.

I may have asked already, but what exactly are all of these infrastructure enhancements agreed as part of the franchise in 2016 to deliver their TSR that have not been delivered?

There already seems to be a mechanism for resolving disputes whether one side like it or not. The problem seems to be that many of the rules are not consistent, have no evidence base or are ignored completely. The commercial advantage in running a service from Liverpool - Scarborough for 3hrs...

Evidence is a good thing. All of the planning rules need an evidence base otherwise they risk becoming a made up work of fiction. If there were evidence base there wouldn't be much scope for disputes. As system operator is really does sound like Network Rails job to impose planning rules on...

There is something fundamentally flawed in a system that does not account for the fact you have probably stopped to let the first train through.

Network Rail publish the planning rules. Do TOCs really dictate these, except for connection times which are for journey planners?

Since the turn of the century, Northern has been variously owned and operated by Arriva, Serco and Abellio and the other local franchise TPE, by First. In other words many of the largest most experienced public transport operators in Europe. There needs to be a realisation the current...

Some timetables naturally recover from typical delays experienced in day to day operation. Others only see delays increasing until services or stations are removed taking Liverpool Scarborough or York to Leeds via Harrogate as examples.

I will contrast this discussion with that found on a pilot / aviation forum. The consensus there was that while most passenger raised 'issues / defects' were false positives, sometimes very real problems got spotted and the pilots for one are very happy for them to keep looking and keep telling...

I mean by advertising a train service in its entirety that can be delivered and delivered reliably. The current offer is literally a work of fiction and pruning a few twigs here and there will not be sufficient. They are currently at around an 8% cancellation rate. This should not be about...

Harrogate captures almost everything going wrong with timetables and capacity management on the railway today. The local trains are not very punctual. At York they are frequently held 3-6min to follow a late running express to Skelton. There is no opportunity to recover this all the way to...