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Moderator note: split from https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-442s-now-at-the-end-of-the-road-and-to-be-withdrawn-permanently.127422/page-209 Are we finally going to stop these "make do and mend" ideas now? Given the problems with the 230s/ 319s/ 442s/ HSTs etc... whilst I like the...

Are you in favour of everything serving one station for English cities (outside of London) or having different services using different stations? One of the complaints about HS2 is that the station won't be at New Street (it'll be right next to Moor Street, but a short walk from New Street...

Whenever we discuss regret at closed stations (which we seem to do fairly regularly), it always seems to be on lines that closed (and generally on lines that closed in fairly rural areas - North Yorkshire, Peak District, Dartmoor etc). This means that we don't focus much on stations which...

I'm looking for false economies - times when projects could have delivered a lot more for only a marginal (e.g. 5%) increase to the budget. New fleet orders that were just a couple of units too short to cover the PVR, meaning that some old trains had to be kept in service Electrification that...

Recent discussion about BR's reluctance to have locomotives with "666" in their TOPS number made me wonder which locos were the first to have obviously "missing" numbers when first given TOPS numbers (within the class - e.g. 47665 then 47667) Also (to pad out what might be a fairly thin...

Which parent company ordered the best/worst trains? For example (off the top of my head): Virgin - 220/221/390s Stagecoach - 450/458/707s First - 175/180/185/397/701/802s and Mk5s National Express - 170/334/460s I'm sure there are many more though. (I'm ignoring the 800/801s as they were...

"When the fact change, I change my mind. What do you do, Sir?" (intended as a thread to be honest about the things you've revised your opinions of, rather than a thread to argue about things) Covid seems to have entrenched a lot of people in the views they already had. At the moment, the...

Rather than divert the First South Yorkshire thread further, I thought I'd start a new one.... When have local bus liveries coincided with local football colours? In the days when each town/city had a local bus livery, there were some times where it coincided. Maybe that was due to the long...

Rather than divert an already diverted thread (https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/how-did-the-low-number-of-passengers-at-the-height-of-railway-mania-sustain-the-network-at-the-time.210127/) further, I thought I'd ask a question in a new thread: Given that the current UK railway network has...

I'm sure that places like Toys'r'Us used to sell a range of Hornby stuff (a limited range, but at least a couple of train set boxes), there used to be Beatties too - but current toy shops like Smyths and The Entertainer don't seem to cater to that market. Being dragged around Smyths recently...

What examples are there of loops/circles with different frequencies in each direction? There are still some proper "circular" routes in the UK (although fewer than at deregulation, as operators focus on reliability and allocating resources to the busier sections), and many "linear" services...

Rather than divert the existing/interesting thread on franchise changes (https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/companies-who-have-owned-a-franchise-more-than-once.206597/#post-4673393), I thought I'd start a new thread to discuss the long gaps between a parent company running a service between...

A number of towns/cities have things (businesses, events etc) that take part of their name from the local telephone code or motorway junction or postcode, but are there any examples of things that have been named after a bus route? The late Linda Smith (as seen on QI etc) used to run/compere...

One of the regular criticisms of privatisation I see on here is the fact that there haven't been many new railways (by which people generally mean "there haven't been enough re-opened old railways" - even though the decisions on such long term infrastructure projects are obviously dependent upon...

The interesting thread about bus destination screens (https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/trivia-when-have-bus-companies-renamed-a-destination.200802/page-2#post-4476216) shows that sometimes a bus company has invented a name for a terminus that doesn't sit neatly in one suburb or another...

Following the thread about bus destinations that have been renamed, what routes are there that ought to be renamed? Sometimes due to the destination being inaccurate, sometimes due to the destination being ambiguous (e.g. on the border between two suburbs) or where something is known by a...

Rather than disrupt the existing (general) thread about re-openings, I thought I’d start a new one – this is one that hasn’t been discussed as much as some, so I thought it might be worth explaining it to show why I’m conflicted about a line that has taken on political significant in recent...

There's been discussion on another thread (https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/may-2020-timetable-changes.197667/page-5) about whether a section of line without a scheduled passengers service has to go through the procedures for "closure". Rather than drag that thread off-topic, I thought...

At the moment a lot of the delays faced by Northern/TPE are due to problems encountered in central Manchester (which spread out across the whole network like ripples). A direct Pic-Vic service has been provided by Metrolink for almost thirty years (yet we still run services so that places have...

Without wanting to disrupt the “Northern 153s” thread further (https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/what-are-northerns-plans-for-their-10-class-153s.196181/), what is the most inefficient use of stock (and what was the most inefficient use of stock historically)? For example, Northern are going...