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Pacers were great between Barnsley and Meadowhall when it had jointed track, they bounced around all over the place at line speed. It's just not the same anymore!

Lol! I must admit, I was only thinking in terms of passenger comfort. But I suspect to the layman much is missed... 1611316462 Through floor Aircon?

The 333s just seem soldier, better quality somehow, and comfier than a 331, to my mind at least.

Indeed I do believe I've seen a photo of it at St. Pancras. My contender for never seeing a sprinter would be the line from Sheffield Victoria (as was) through to Wadsley Bridge station, which was used for football specials until the mid-90s.

I seem to recall that the Arriva Trains North 150/2s still had their original seating and layouts (with new upholstery) in the early-mid 2000s, the orange vestibules were still present. I'm guessing that would have been about 16 or so years. Of course heritage DMUs, refurbed in the 1970s...

Cravens full stop really. I presume a lot of power/trailer combinations would struggle due to power/weight ratio, even more prevalent with heavyweights like 114s.

Lol! That fair amused me.

Pacers used to sometimes struggle leaving Penistone during leaf season, especially if it was a wet day, the curved rail made for maximum pacer squeal.

My biggest gripe with nationalisation is that it leaves industries/sectors in the hands of the government and governments are often: corrupt, clueless or ineffectual. Someone once said, politicians don't create wealth, they live off the hard work of others. So I figure, the less power and...

Barnsley were still using it in the early 2010s for certain. It was the last place I heard it for sure.

I really miss the old BR jingle before announcements, actually I miss the Phil Sayer announcements too. Is the BR jingle still used anywhere? York always stood out in the early 2000s, they had their own two-tone jingle, sounded like nothing else, well not the other stations I was using anyhow...

My question to this is, should referendums be legally binding therefore? My thinking being, if referendums are only advisory, then when a government gets an answer it doesn't want, it can simply ignore the majority will. So why ask the people at all? Regardless of the way one voted on the EU...

To be fair I was posting tongue in cheek a little, but perhaps some devolution in England and taking decisions outside of Westminster would help to level up the country for real. After all, the local Government in each region probably knows what the local regions need better than a remote power...

I'd settle for splitting England into separate kingdoms; Mercia, Wessex, Northumbria, East Anglia, Danelaw etc. ;)

That's a great shot, just shows how much things have changed! I had assumed that the rail network in that area was extensive, however only seeing it like this shows how much the industry and rail network has been pruned since the mid-20th century.

That's the one, so it did go to steel works, nice to know my surmise was correct!

I didn't mean the passing loop behind Brightside station, you are on the correct side though. Travelling from Meadowhall there's the loop line running behind the station, it rejoins and then you get the beginning of the redundant track shortly after. It runs parallel to the Down line before...

Marple to Rose Hill Marple - £2.90 I believe it's a fair walk between the two, but is it quicker than the 27 minute journey time?

I've been wondering this for a long while. There's a stretch of partially dismantled and overgrown track which runs along the main line, heading towards Sheffield from Meadowhall. It begins just after the old Brightside station and continues as far as the Attercliffe Road area of Sheffield...

Wouldn't it be ironic if 144012 is the only one to go for scrap!