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  1. J

    Football

    I'm not going to argue that the team is better now than in 2008, but you could argue any team is worse than it used to be if you compared their good old players with their weaker current players. Cleverley and Anderson are not as important parts of the 2014 team as Ronaldo, Scholes and Giggs...
  2. J

    Football

    As Anderson walks away from Manchester United with his four Premier League medals and one Champions League medal, all won since 2008, I'm sure his only wish will be to put these particularly unsuccessful years with a bad team behind him.
  3. J

    Football

    There need not be another post on this subject. Although I did believe the goalkeeper handled the ball out of the area my argument only ever was that there was a possibility that he had, and the lack of scrutiny given to it wasn't what you would expect had the incident involved a Manchester...
  4. J

    Football

    So your argument is that the incident is so obviously not a handball that it doesn't even merit a 5 second replay to prove it one way or the other? This despite it being broadcast by BT Sport who elsewhere on the broadcast chose to relive such riveting moments as members of the crowd yawning...
  5. J

    Football

    That he could have handled the ball outside the box, but because the incident was completely ignored by both the television coverage and the media in general there isn't even a second angle available which could prove it either way. Also that had the incident been given the same level of...
  6. J

    Football

    Which was never the point, as much as everyone has tried to make it that.
  7. J

    Football

    I did not. I said I didn't think he intended to leave the penalty area, because of how he stopped like a stone near the edge. This is to counter any claim that he was moving at some great speed so could have punched the ball from within the box but still ended up outside. He moves very little...
  8. J

    Football

    Considering that the broadcaster would have had many cameras pointed at the incident, and the extremely high amount of attention given to other incidents in other games and even this one, do you not find it remarkable that no further scrutiny was given either on the live broadcast or on MOTD...
  9. J

    Football

    The fact that they are inconclusive is irrelevant. My belief is that he did handle the ball outside the area, but that's not important. My argument has only been that Lloris could have handled the ball outside the area, and had the same level of scrutiny been given to the incident as would have...
  10. J

    Football

    magnanimous adjective 1. generous or forgiving, especially towards a rival or less powerful person. The approval of others seems to be a constant theme with you. Are you incapable of making your own decisions without caring what other people think? I said I didn't believe that Lloris...
  11. J

    Football

    Utter nonsense. I missed the start of the game so it was an incident I wasn't even aware of until I saw numerous mentions of it on Twitter. I then provided evidence here that shows that it's at the very least arguably handball. My argument throughout has been that as is typical with decisions...
  12. J

    Football

    Perhaps their brains weren't functioning properly due to the glue fumes coming off of Lloris' sticky gloves. or perhaps because there are only three United players in the shot and it takes the human brain more than the fraction of a second that had passed to realise what had happened and react...
  13. J

    Football

    Of course a goalkeeper is allowed to handle the ball inside his own area. He may not have intended to leave his area but he did leave his area. After leaving the area he appeared to punch the ball clear to deny Danny Welbeck a clear goalscoring opportunity As he punched the ball rather than...
  14. J

    Football

    As established decisions in favour of United are remembered and brought up a decade after they happen while decisions against United are instantly dismissed and not even followed up with replays. We've just heard that an 18 year old who's played just 14 times for United has already been booked...
  15. J

    Football

    He's getting booked now when he hasn't actually dived. Yesterday he was fouled and immediately got up but still ended up being booked. He did dive against West Ham but only after being denied a clear penalty a few moments earlier. After being booked for that dive the West Ham players must have...
  16. J

    Football

  17. J

    Football

    I don't think he intended to leave his area but once he had left it he realised there was no choice but to punch the ball away despite being outside of his area. The link you provided doesn't appear to say what you think it does, unless you meant to say he should have received a red card. ---...
  18. J

    Football

    Which if anything only strengthens the case I am trying to make? That debatable decisions that go against United are ignored and those in favour of United get analysed in forensic detail and brought up nine years later. Had they showed replays from the side we could tell for sure. BT instead...
  19. J

    Football

    The rule in cricket, I think? Can you provide evidence that in football anything but the position of the ball (outside of the box) matters? Lloris had little or no forward momentum at this point, he stopped dead like a stone on the edge of the box to try and avoid leaving it, but I think...
  20. J

    Football

    Animation of the Lloris punch in the first minute. Even if for some reason you don't believe it shows conclusively that he handled the ball outside the box you must admit it's strange that the commentators made no mention of it and no replays were shown of it. A narrower shot from the sideline...

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