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Really? Where did you find out about poor people being criminals? The Daily Mail?

I'm now puzzling over SE/BTP motives for the blockade, apart from the obvious one of catching criminals. The choice of Plumstead appears to be a good one; they've had a great haul! What is SE trying to achieve? If it's deterence, then I'm sure that will work. If it is to gain intelligence about...

I'm putting you on 'ignore'; there is nothing to be gained from talking to you.

It seems, as has been noted on here, that you believe Thamesmead people make a choice to use Plumstead and not Woolwich Arsenal because they wish to avoid paying fares at the Woolwich barrier. This seems to me to be unsubstantiated bigotry, or opinion tossed off in a slack fashion. I have...

You do need to look at a map. Here's a link https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4823198,0.1238178,12.64z. When you open it up, you'll see that Thamesmead is north east of Plumstead. To get to Thamesmead from Woolwich Arsenal you have to go either past (by road) or through Plumstead station. So...

Have you looked at a map? The reason why Thamesmead people use Plumstead instead of Woolwich Arsenal has nothing to do with the barriers at Woolwich. It's because Plumstead is more than a mile closer to Thamesmead.

The figures from Plumstead, 123 dodgers caught with anecdotal evidence that there were more who were caught and released and more who chose to stay on the train despite not having a ticket, are shocking. It seems clear to me that fare dodgers from this station have become accustomed to...

I phrased it as the expectation of dodging a fare, and from the evidence given here by other forum users it seems there are people daft enough to attempt chronic fare dodging. You can't underestimate the stupidity of some!

You are confused! Dodging the fare on a train is much different to picking up a free paper; let me explain -- without revenue trains won't run; if you pick up a free newspaper you are not entitled to, the trains will still run. The trains cost money to operate and dodging a fare is stealing...

The free Times is likely what is known as a 'bulk'. The paper produces these for special distribution, usually for free. What has happened on these trains is that the newspaper company likely pays the train company to give its paper away free, because First Class travellers are the kind of...

This is really interesting! I've been followed through a gate once in many years, and I would not think of doing it myself; so I don't see what goes on. A determined fare dodger is going to exploit whatever weaknesses he or she can find, and double-gating seems to be one of them. This changes my...

I have been followed at a gate by a dodger. But why only once? And how reliable is our personal experience as evidence of a wider trend? How many a day through London down terminals would you guess?

How do you get on at London terminals without a ticket?

Yes, I agree. I think the £43k fare dodger is not alone. And by it's very nature, short ticketing is hard to know about. It should certainly be possible for a daily commuter from somewhere an hour from London to buy an oyster zone 1 season ticket and just wing it, if the station they use is...

You make a good point about barriers on inner suburban lines. TfL put barriers in on the New Cross Gate to West Croydon line, and they are manned for most of the day. The stations feel safer, and it must be harder to dodge fares. I can contrast this with the Hayes line. That's almost entirely...

I think you make a very good point about the connection between fare evasion and about anti-social behavior. Any investment in staff -- RPI, guards, manned ticket lines -- is the kind of expense that SE might very well want to avoid because it appears as a cost, but the benefits of having these...

I know my assertions seem not credible to you, but they are based on reality. Deptford and Greenwich bound passengers in the evening peak on SE services will all have tickets. How do I know this? Because they can't get on at London terminals without one. How do I know they aren't short...

If you read what I've written you'll see that I recognize fare dodging takes place, and I want to put it into its correct context; which is, it's not much of a problem set againt SE's revenue and its traveller figures. Why am I able to assert this? Because I've demonstrated that SE is a commuter...

Just think, how many commuters would need to have bought season tickets that are short to make any measurable impact? I can see how a commuter from a non-barrier station could buy a short ticket for regular travel but are you really telling me this is anything more than a trivial number? There...

I've used Brixton regularly, and I've often been at Elephant. Is Elephant really ungated? My memories from 2016 through to 2018 are of barriers. Am I wrong? As for Brixton; I know it's an opportunity to dodge a fare, and it happens, and I'm sure I've seen it. For the SE network it's a tiny...