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One would think so,although that still leaves 44 in limbo. I assume that all 60 of the 10 car units have now actually been built? Given the current state of play with GBR(or not) ,and stock withdrawals and cascades (or not),we may be awaiting some time to ride on one in service. Luckily they...

Chicken and egg situation? Until enough 701s are fully accepted I guess one can't start staff training,and without staff training they can't be introduced. Until that little circle is squared they will remain to me 10-NIS units.Am I correct in thinking Mr Ford is doing a feature in MR shortly?

Dear oh dear. It seems like everyone involved needs an 'incentive' to resolve this long running saga. Are we seriously saying a whole fleet of 60 new trains will be built unfit for use? Are we really saying GRRF drivers are taking their life in their hands each day by driving them? Are we really...

Well several have been melted own already so guess they are 'warm'. Storage costs money and scrap earns money.

For what it is worth,my list of vehicles still in storage/preservation is;77383...71822 71846...77388 71824 71848...77393 71829 71853 77417...62954...77400...71841 71865. Note there is one motor coach still surviving and stored at Wolverton.Feel free to update or correct that list folks.

I have it that there are still 14 coaches from various 442s in existance.Anyone confirm that please?

...and who pays for all this re-working,warm storage,unit moves,unit testing,leasing costs,late delivery penalties..and I guess they are depreciating every day.Have any heads rolled yet...the units haven't in revenue earning service!

Has anyone ...either builder or buyer...got a handle on the whole 701 project? By now one would imagine that the common faults have been identified,solutions found,and so new build units should be coming out largely fault-free subject to the usual snagging and fiddles most new kit requires...

I recall one very hot day I had a Vep coach to myself and dropped all the door windows...and there were a few...wonderful breeze that kicked up beween Basingstoke and Winchester 'down the hill',plus the wooppa wooppa air pressure effect. Given that London Buses all have white roofs in an attempt...

Vivarail seem to produce a variety of less than reliable conversions.Then again,re-engineering seems a tad unsuccessful in general such as the 769 saga is proving. It seems the 484s on the IOW are reasonable,but basically they are a simple third rail unit.I am not an industry insider,and no...

A couple of things spring to mind. Surely the unions would advise all members not to work them as they are unsafe for staff and passengers alike.Secondly,are Derby still pumping out 701s with numerous faults,or are the current(pardon the pun) ones now as they should be? These chaps make British...

Wonder when someone/DfT will decide they are a money pit not worth having ? Sims can handle two a day,so they would be gone in a month.Remember the 442 debacle ? Perhaps a frivolous remark,but given the union resistance,various build issues,lack of any driver training and changes in commuter...

Thanks for confirming the two cars at Wolverton still exist.Curious,as I thought all the SWR sets had a total destruction order on them.Anyone shed any light on this pair?

It seems that only two cars from both 2405 and 2424 possibly still exist,but I may be wrong.In addition I can't find details anywhere that 62954 (2418) and 77400(2419) from those latterly at Wolverton have been broken up either.Can anyone confirm if they still exist or not? The other remaining...

Can anyone create a simple timeline of when some 701s will really need to be in service? I know there will come a point where either existing rolling stock goes off lease,or will not be economical to repair given length of remaining lease. There must be a date rapidly approaching when some 701s...

Would it be possible to run sets with a 91 at each end?

Has anyone confirmed the demise of these 25 coaches?

Franchise is dead isn't it?