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Sorry, no, you can't. That bus route goes outside the shaded area on the map. I know it's a nuisance, it's a nuisance for me too. The only Warrington bus routes that it's accepted on are those that go to/from Greater Manchester, so not the route to Northwich. This is why the map is drawn the...

If once a hour is a disgrace, I'm afraid there are a lot of disgraceful lines in northern England.

Best suggestion so far, thank you. I wouldn't risk the Oxford Road / Salford Crescent variation either. You'd be dependent on the Castlefield corridor, twice. The long wait at Victoria and a search for breakfast is more appealing than that. I do quite enjoy a ride over the hills on the Bolton...

There isn't. TfW has an arrival from Chester at 0754, at Piccadilly... that's cutting it fine for an 0815 departure from Victoria. The previous one of course is 0654. Northern has an arrival at 0719 at Piccadilly (off the Mid Cheshire) and the next is 0819 - too late. Northern's Chester to...

My understanding from the discussion at the stakeholder meeting where I first heard about this is that Northern will introduce new return fares from the Manchester/Lancashire area to the S&C stations valid only via Clitheroe, at a price considerably less than the current open return via the...

I wouldn't have been moaning either. The crowning glory of the 150s is their superb ride, especially on worn or old track. Modern units never come close to matching this.

I agree. If I get the chance (another stakeholder meeting would be a good opportunity) I shall say this to them directly.

And to add to the replies above, Northern are not going to market the new service as Dalesrail. It will be something else. I can't remember what (or maybe Northern didn't tell us stakeholders).

Wouldn't be the first time they've been embarrassed!

I heard from a contact in Northern that they are planning for it to be a Blackburn duty, but that there is some negotiation to do. Which is consistent with what we've discussed upthread, although in this case I wish management could just decide and get on with it, without needing to negotiate...

The farm crossings on the Mid Cheshire are being addressed by better safety measures (two are already done, maybe all three) so the risk assessment should change.

It also suggests management are failing in their duty to run the business. They're letting the union make the decisions about what runs, outside of any strikes.

1706183906 Are you saying that because the service operates in Wales, or might do, that it must be run by the Welsh operator?

You're making lots of valid points, but you haven't addressed the central lack of accountability. How are local campaigners in England supposed to address issues with TfW when TfW are only answerable to the Welsh government?

This is why I was saying TfW should not operate this service. It needs to be operated by an English operator because they have to answer to the DfT, and can be challenged by English MPs and English voters. Unfortunately, we have unbalanced devolution in the UK. so TfW are answerable to the...

I was at the stakeholders meeting last week and unless I misunderstood, it isn't going to operate in peak hours, at least not initially. It's a Saturday service to start with, timed for the leisure market to Settle, Horton, and Ribblehead. Northern is trying to grow the leisure market. If it...

It is better but Northern did not say the extra trains would call at every station. It isn't supposed to be a 2tph to the branch stations service. Northern did not say but I guess it might call at Clitheroe only.

Not an extension of half the Clitheroes but an extension of some of the Rochdale-Blackburn terminators, we were led to believe.

Yes, I think the same, and regarding price; I think Northern said something to stakeholders about needing to get the fare structure right for this. At the moment a day return from Manchester to Ribblehead, route via Leeds, is just under £40 (no railcard), and that is too high for the leisure...

I agree that on current plans, Handsacre and Colwich will be bottlenecks. But wherever HS2 ends is going to be a bottleneck. If phase 2a was built, Crewe would be the bottleneck. If HS2 was built in full, Crewe would still be a bottleneck, and Golborne would become another one.