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Now you're just on the wind up! You know fine well the tram stops right at the bus station. a) not what khib70 said and b) you certainly don't know that. Anyone with Google maps can see what a gross exaggeration is. The corridor of land the trams run on was originally reserved for the...

Project management problems as I've said repeatedly and in my first post were a shambles, yes. I'm still waiting to hear a single reason why that means the tram line as it stands now is 'unless'. This could go on forever. :) Ok, please acknowledge the following: Is there or is there not two...

Ah, sorry, I mean the trams in Edinburgh - i.e. the merits of trams running on Edinburgh's streets should have nothing to do with the project delivery. If it wasn't political games then why were Transport Scotland originally involved in the tram project, then removed once the SNP were...

Very fitting as some of the posts have as much insight as what some would call a 'pub rant'. :) On the subject of the trams setting back other projects. Firstly, Edinburgh's project was dragged through the hedge despite being preceded by successful projects - the people using Edinburgh as an...

Forced? Manipulated? We've already had complaints up thread about the trams not taking enough buses off the road. So which is it? Because it can't be both. (As oldman says, one bus route was withdrawn.) Incidentally, those passengers forced off the X12 and onto trams at the P&R doubled in...

We'll never know. But in the context of what the city was 'told', i.e. the trams will pull down the buses, only bus passengers will be forced to use them, etc, the figures are highly significant. Certainly a far cry from the disaster many try to claim.

You haven't counted the 3 million 'new' tram trips, so overall 6 million increase for TfE last year. Actually TfE didn't imply anything with their figures other than state everything was on the up.

It's hardly 'only' that a range of tickets and smart cards allow unlimited travel across both. And most stops allow interchange to buses, the two rail interchanges were also designed to have cross-platform bus interchange. What I was referring to was why are people so determined that a single...

If I'm not mistaken most railways lose money and most roads in the country have never returned a single penny in direct revenue despite costing a fortune to build and maintain. Also, trams holistically cover their maintenance costs, whereas a significant amount of bus-related maintenance - road...

Well perhaps, but there's a lot of sweeping criticism. What do you deem to be serious flaws, out of interest? Trams offer a high profile, reliable and high capacity shuttle into the city centre that are less susceptible to congestion than buses. Just like any other successfully implemented...

Surprised to read these kind of negative comments on a rail forum, of all places. The management of the project construction was a farce, no question, but that has nothing to do with the merits of the finished tram line as a mode of transport. It certainly is in no way an 'epic fail'...